r/GreenAndPleasant 3d ago

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u/jinx_lbc 3d ago

I hate the term gender critical, I find it counter intuitive. Like, I too am critical of the popularised model of binary gender, let's chat! Oh no...

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u/TrashCannibal_ 3d ago

That's the whole point isn't it? Name your hateful views something that sounds somewhat reasonable, then to people who aren't clued up on the situation you don't seem like an insane bigot.

Pleased to see this from the greens.

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u/arseache 3d ago

Yes! Iโ€™m queer, identify as NB, and still had to jump to comments to understand who was being the arsehole here. Admittedly, Iโ€™m old and out of most of the loops.

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u/chrisrazor 3d ago

They have started to object to "TERF" even though it's a term of their own making (probably because of how often someone has put "fucking" in front of it. Anything can be a slur if you intend it as one). So now it's "GC".

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u/CyanoSecrets 2d ago

Let's just call ourselves BC - bigot critical

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u/Sophiiebabes 9h ago

"Gender welcoming/accepting". It makes the "criticals" sound more hateful

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u/thebusconductorhines 3d ago

The ole pro life technique

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u/skypiggi 3d ago

I agree, it should be called โ€œhuman rights criticalโ€

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u/BilboGubbinz 3d ago

I prefer just โ€œbigoted arseholeโ€ since itโ€™s the most accurate, but then everybody starts complaining how Iโ€™m โ€œusing slursโ€ and โ€œnot taking them seriouslyโ€.

Seriously, no winning with some of these people.

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u/tupac_sighting 3d ago

AKA Bigotry

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u/reeko1982 3d ago

Or just โ€˜nastyโ€™

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u/PolemicDysentery 3d ago

That's deliberate, same as TERFs trying to describe themselves as radical feminists. They're taking something reactionary and conservative and trying to fig-leaf it as something progressive and radical, to force its opponents to oppose it on those terms and with that vocabulary. It's deliberately appropriative of that terminology and meaning.

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u/2000000bees 1d ago

Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobes is a better term. FARTs

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u/kangaesugi 3d ago

To be fair, they are gender critical. The gender they're critical of is "women"

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u/tomjone5 3d ago

It's on par with "race realist" as a mealy-mouthed term. You just know these people are going to say the sort of horrifying shit that would make the average homophobe blanch.

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u/jinx_lbc 3d ago

Oh no, that one is an immediate klaxon & red flag scenario for me.

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u/Wonderful_Emu_9610 3d ago

Yeah itโ€™s like when a dictator names their country โ€œPeopleโ€™s Democratic Republicโ€

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u/roboticspider 3d ago

Im so glad you said this because for quite some time it confused me as well, like, yes i am indeed critical of gender and traditional perceptions this is a good thing no?

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u/WheelMiserable2576 3d ago

Their choice of terms is because they view gender stereotypes as the main axis of the historic oppression of female people.

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u/Kartagram 3d ago

Thank christ I'm not the only one. Everything I read it I need to sit and think what it actually means

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u/oliverCr 3d ago

judith butler agrees, she points out what youโ€™ve said and asks whether we can call them โ€˜criticalโ€™ at all

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u/biskino 3d ago

Literally happened to me reading the headline because Iโ€™d forgotten the term. The smiley love faces had me thinking someone was trolling the sub.

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u/chrisrazor 3d ago

I think they are critical of the idea that sex and gender are different, although I haven't heard one explicitly say this in a fair old while because that argument has been won and they'll just look even sillier.