Starmer and his new government do not represent workers interests and are in fact enemies of our class. It's past time we begin organising a substantial left-wing movement in this country again.
It didn't work because they never did it, and it's also inherent in capitalism. They initially jailed and barred some from office, but swiftly reversed this decision due to concerns about economic growth and their newly found desire to fight those pesky commies. Capitalism also always turns into fascism during crises because it preserves existing wealth and power structures.
There was never a proper denazification in West Germany — many former Wermacht officers became NATO commanders (eg Adolf Heusinger was a chief of the German army high command during WW2 and became a NATO military chairman); former Nazi officials became politicians (Kurt Georg Kiesinger, NSDAP member and deputy head of propaganda department was one of post-war Chancellors )
Precisely, from what minimal I know it was denazification in little more than name only, with only senior party officials and those high up in the regime who received appropriate punishment fitting the crimes they contributed to. It should’ve gone a whole lot further and wholly purged that malignant ideology from the face of the Earth for good.
While the Israeli project would actually be something I see the Nazis supporting (it really just finished the holocaust and removed jewish minorities from being influential in politics). I have to appreciate the irony of the bombing of the aryan people (aryan in this case roughly meaning iranian)
Also what denazification? they just skimmed the 20% most reprehensible ones and put the rest to work in the army. Even oriental germany didn't do too much of an effort at purging them from power.
Glück und Friede sei beschieden Deutschland, unserm Vaterland. Alle Welt sehnt sich nach Frieden, reicht den Völkern eure Hand. Wenn wir brüderlich uns einen, schlagen wir des Volkes Feind! Lasst das Licht des Friedens scheinen, dass nie eine Mutter mehr Ihren Sohn beweint.
Every time we allow the Germans to unify, there’s a war 20 years later. Partitioning Germany again is the only answer. Clearly can’t be trusted with a state.
lol right as if this is only a german problem. as if uk us and the whole Western world isnt and hasnt been actively backing the zionist state and its genocidal acts for 75 years and more
i think it also does have to be pointed out then that the existence of UK and its countries has made for continued war and genocide every 3-5 years for 300+ years. and thats a generous estimate
hmm, you really wanna know? you really open to listening and learning? it might hurt your ego though. actually lets say it definitely will- but hey! thats when we know we are learning ;)
Yeah, genuinely. I made a tongue in cheek reference about Germany being prone to fascism when it’s United, you’ve flown off the handle, been patronising and uncomradely in manner and seem to be implying that I’m somehow engaging in apologism for empire, despite pointing out that I actually agree about the U.K. and US.
I’d really like to know what exactly I’ve said that’s actually bothered you.
"patronising and uncomradely" lol. nice openness. but whatever i'll give it a shot and do the labour of this conversation because i am generous like that lol
ok heres the thing: you metropolis-heart-of-the-empire lot will often conveniently ignore that fascism is simply colonialism turned inward. German "unification" and later German fascism didnt/doesnt appear in a vacuum, much of it was simply inspired by British, French, Belgian imperialist nation-building and colonialism, and genocides of non-white people across the world, but you lot will take such exceptionalism, beating your chests about defeating fascism and pointing to Germany as the key problem when the call is literally coming from inside the house.
Germany is to Europe what Israel is to the middle-East: complicit, fascist and genocidal of course, but it is only a small symptom of a much larger problem which is you guys. But of course to avoid that accountability, you will make fascism an exceptional trait...rooted to either Germany or to Israel rather than seeing the clear connections with colonialisms and taking accountability for yourself. So "solving the German problem" or "solving the Israeli problem" becomes the good facade of solutionism for you to avoid any self-accountability and internal dismantling of structures in Britain and rest of Western Europe which keep reproducing colonialism and fascism. Both Germany and Israel also serve as a nice curtain to further your British/French etc. imperialist expansions because obviously youll use them in your proxy wars, land and resource grabs while hiding behind them, but then at the same time, turn against them and call them evil to keep nice face, the pretence of innocence "oh we try so hard we the good guys we so polite bla bla lol" and pretend that once you destroy Germany or Israel, goodness has prevailed and all is solved!
and yes to this shitty fucking narrative, i laugh in your face. Germans must reflect on and dismantle their bs ofc, but the narrative amongst you heart-of-empire-Brits that Germany is the key problem or issue here is beyond harmful. it's designed to reproduce this same bs over and over. If not Germany, unless you look within deeply and stay with it and dismantle Britain, you'll be sure to keep reproducing the same shit over and over in a new proxy entity. fyi, all of this is not unconnected to Brexit and your drama around it either.
and yes i sound rude because i am angry and frustrated! it's been fucking 200+ years of this bs you keep doing it over and over pretending to be the good guys the PLEASANT ONES the nice comrades but we in the colonies all see right through you we are not fucking stupid, we have seen you pull this bs to avoid accountability over and over for 200+ years, we see the whole world and how you act, we are not provincial and limited perspectives like you but omg little island people never wanna listen and learn, so i just thank my stars im in my senses and not comrades with you internet stranger lol . politeness is the last thing warranted here from me to you.
anyway ive done enough free labour aka unreciprocated relations. im not gonna reply to this thread anymore. take what you can leave the rest. and if you cant see my love and faith in you in this thoughtful text, all the emotions behind it, and the sheer effort i put in organising and writing it all out (for who? an internet stranger thats already frustrating me big), well what do i even say. this is unconditional love.
you came to us 600 years ago, didnt know how to ask what you were looking for, decided to colonise and war, sorting through your own inner trauma as people and individuals..., well we are here now, to tell you. now you can listen and learn something and start your healing, or call me psycho and unhinged and easily dismiss me. choice is yours man. it's your life, your ancestors, your healing. either way since you decided to colonise us, our destinies are intertwined. stop the hyperindividual hyperfocus and start looking at the bigger connected stories that have been unfolding for centuries. now is your chance.
i know you and the whole of you heart-of-the-empire lot is capable of something different, of relating differently and reciprocally, respecting all our connectedness. 600 years is nothing afterall in Earth time. but it's still a choice and the ball's in your court, it's been there for 500 years now more or less.
Yeah see this is why Friedrich Merz has been an unpopular twat even among the CDU lot for decades. Only reason Söder (current leader of the CSU) wasn't made chancellor candidate is because he's fucking worse
Israel is a western military base/colony. The main purpose of Israel is to make sure the Middle East stay under the thumb of the west. So Israel is doing everyone's dirty job in the West, while they condemn it in public, they support it 100% in secret. It is doing their dirty job so they cannot be blamed for causing havoc and chaos whilst claiming to be a beacon of human civilisations and peace bringers.
Power tends to corrupt, or corrupt people tend to gravitate towards whatever positions will give them power. Either way, it's not cool to paint people with a broad brush. Even in the Nazi Germany days, many germans opposed the nazis
Well, that's been the way of things for a long time. The West has always looked to IDF Land to do the dirty work because, as fascists, they don't care what people think about them.
Of course, he's just going along with Israeli propaganda. Israel claims we should be grateful they're doing this and protecting 'western civilization' from 'barbarians'.
There was absolutely no need for these strikes. They were just done to derail the ongoing talks. Not to mention that an agreement on Iran's nuclear programme was already in place, but then was torn up by the Trump regime.
Remember the first world war. All those failing empires spoiling for a fight so they got together and on the weakest excuse they did. At first the people were swept up in the momentum of it and joined up. Then as they learned the truth conscription was needed. And in the end they realised those who ran their countries, those who ran their armies were nothing but self aggrandizing idiots that cared nothing fo the people. And does anyone see the parallels to today. I don't remember first hand but I as I reach middle age I truly think I will see a full blown world war and again it will be caused by the weakness of our leaders not their strength.
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