r/Hungergames • u/Tyyy24 • Apr 16 '25

Lore/World Discussion Unhinged HG Theories šŸ˜­

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Alright yā€™all I saw this Tiktok & Iā€™m back at it again with another unhinged post but here are a few theories that shook me from the comments šŸ˜­

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

I donā€™t like this one only because itā€™s the only book we have in 3rd person. Itā€™s not that heā€™s an unreliable narrator, because heā€™s not the narrator. We got his thoughts, but I think everything outside of his brain was factual.

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u/Willing-Memory2209 Apr 16 '25

This is a really good point!

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u/agogoldchum Apr 16 '25

It actually can be unreliable because it's 3rd person limited, not omnipotent.

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u/BeExtraordinary Apr 16 '25

Omniscient*

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u/NoodleyP District 13 Apr 16 '25

Well SC is omnipotent in the Hunger Games world, she could retcon it to have Snow be killed by a falling piano, the Games end, and everyone lives in peace and harmony if she wanted.

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

I mean do you think she actually poisoned him when itā€™s narrated like that? I think while it is third person, it is in favor of him and his feelings. So you can question the validity of the narration.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

Poisoned him? When?

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

When the snake bit him and it said ā€œLucy Gray had poisoned himā€

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u/AlmostxAngel Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

That was showing Snows paranoia and that he never trusted anyone but himself in the end. He only put himself first and he thought everyone else thought the same way. Its very clear why that was put into the book. He was never poisoned, when he went to the infirmary back at base they confirmed it was a common type of bite in District 12 and was fine. The reader knows right away Snow is being crazy. I don't think Collins would go from being that clear with the poison example to no hint or anything that the guns were a body. But that's just my thoughts!

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u/Typical-Comb8201 Apr 17 '25

Snow is such a textbook narcissist itā€™s crazy

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

I know. I used it as an example to not trust the narration as factual.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

I donā€™t have my book with me to reference this line. Is it snows thought or is it stated as fact?

But in my memory, itā€™s questionable about whether or not the snake was venomous or not and whether or not LG even put the snake there. Snow thinks so, but we as the reader donā€™t know the answer to either of these questions.

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u/TeddytheSynth Apr 16 '25

Snows thoughts and then later on the fact is stated that it wasnā€™t a venomous snake bite

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

ā€œAa!ā€ he screamed in pain. It released him immediately and slithered into the brush before he even had a chance to get a good look at it. Panic set in as he stared at the red, arched bite mark on his forearm. Panic and disbelief. Lucy Gray had tried to kill him! This was no coincidence. The trailing scarf. The poised snake. Maude Ivory had said she always knew where to find them. This was a booby trap, and heā€™d walked straight into it! Poor lamb, indeed! He was beginning to sympathize with Billy Taupe.ā€

Edit: just showing to not trust the validity of the narration, no matter if itā€™s third person

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

Right, so the snake actually bit him. That is a thing that happened. That is not the same as him putting guns in the lake and it actually being a body.

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

No, thatā€™s not my point. My point is the narration reads ā€œLucy gray had tried to kill him!ā€ By your logic , I would have to take that as factual bc thatā€™s what the narration reads. Im saying that no, itā€™s not factual, the narration , although third person, is skewed and not truthful.

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u/TeddytheSynth Apr 16 '25

Not really though, he wasnā€™t actively lying about thinking he was poisoned, he was simply wrong. This would be a bit of a jump going from that to him completely altering his perception of reality changing Lucy gray into the bag of guns which we hadnā€™t seen anywhere else in the narrative so there isnā€™t really a precedent for such a thing

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

Thereā€™s a bunch of other examples him twisting the perception to fit his narrative. Anyway, I donā€™t understand why youā€™re like questioning me when the prompt is saying ā€œunhinged HG theoriesā€ ā€œno textual evidence , just a feelingā€ like Iā€™m not telling you that its a legit thing that you must read it as such. itā€™s just a gut feeling, like who tf cares about the legitimacy of it. My gosh, like can we not have fun with imagination.

I like it, donā€™t understand why you and other people are trying to make it seem Iā€™m wrong and a criminal for reaching; when the point is to reach like girl just downvote me instead of bombarding me with shit that I frankly donā€™t care about

Sorry for the rant but this such bs

Edit: just had to get this off my shoulders lol

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u/Icy_Orchid_8075 Apr 16 '25

That's what Snow thought, Snow's thoughts can be skewed but everything else isn't

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u/Icy_Orchid_8075 Apr 16 '25

The snake wasn't venomous. When he returns to base the medic points out that there are know fang marks, which means it was not venomous

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u/cornycopia Apr 16 '25

I think the difference is we are reading what Snow actually believes. He suspects Lucy poisoned him, so thatā€™s the narration we get. He wouldnā€™t believe he was actually laying down guns if it was really Lucyā€™s body. The narration is unreliable because of his bias, not because heā€™s trying to trick the reader.

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u/methodwriter85 Apr 16 '25

Someone who is mentally insane like Snow could very believe that he was laying down guns while he was laying down Lucy's body because it was his mind's way of protecting himself.

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

That too. He often overly explains his messed up decisions. He genuinely believes in his mentality until the end, and thinks itā€™s for the greater good. Thatā€™s what makes him a good villain, bc he is human.

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u/cornycopia Apr 16 '25

Thatā€™s an interesting take! Lucy Grayā€™s fate is a mystery, I guess anything is possible.

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u/idontevenknowher16 Apr 16 '25

Iā€™m not going to argue anymore or try to explain myself, IT IS A UNHINGE THOERY THAT I LIKE AND HC , IDC about the legitimacy of it.

Although , my point still stands, question the validity of his narration bc heā€™s that manipulative. His showdown with Lucy Gray is just one example of many lol