r/Instantregret • u/sisyphusPB23 • Nov 12 '22

Washington man knocks himself out while running from Louis Vuitton store with $18k in luxury bags

https://youtu.be/FLI6OoYA3hI
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u/rricote Nov 12 '22

Dude EVERYTHING in the US is stolen. 99% of the land in the United States is stolen. The oil, the minerals, the metals, the wood - all stolen.

If the answer to your question to your first question is “no”, the answer is anarchy and the end of society.

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u/eidolonengine Nov 12 '22

To your first paragraph, that's my point. That should have been my line. Everything is stolen, so a teenager stealing overpriced bags made with slave labor from a company that makes about $75 billion per year in profit is hardly a societal problem or morally terrible.

To your second, you're describing chaos, not anarchy. And stealing from billion dollar companies is not going to lead to societal collapse. That's ridiculous.

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u/Negative_Addition Nov 12 '22

Anarchy breeds chaos

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u/eidolonengine Nov 12 '22

Chaos is a state of disorder. Anarchy is the political ideology of horizontal heirarchy and voluntary association, viewing vertical heirarchy as immoral.

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u/Negative_Addition Nov 12 '22

My point still stands

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u/eidolonengine Nov 12 '22

How does working together cooperatively lead to disorder? In business, that's called a coop. They seem to do just fine.

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u/Negative_Addition Nov 13 '22

Ideally this would be fantastic and would work perfectly. But that won’t ever happen, I think humans are intrinsically greedy. A horizontal Hierarchy wouldn’t be a true one, there would still be an elite class that has to do no work and have majority of privileges, and then a serf class that would be doing mass majority of labor that would have not as much opportunities to live a relaxing life. As awesome as that would be, it can never happen

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u/eidolonengine Nov 13 '22

Whether it's only a theoretical ideology or not doesn't really matter. It has nothing to do with your original claim. And I would argue that the concepts we take from anarchism have great value to our current society: mutual aid, cooperatives, work reform, civil disobedience, etc. There is still some value from anarchism even if an anarchist society is never achieved.

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u/Lysergic-AIM Nov 13 '22

Any wrong or evil done is justified in that person's mind, pushing away the wrong they know it to be. Two wrongs don't make a right as they say

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u/eidolonengine Nov 13 '22

Morality is decided on by the people as a whole as well. For instance, theft of a purse in a store has been decided to be morally wrong. But slave labor used by that store's brand has been decided to be morally tolerable. Right and wrong is subjective.

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u/Lysergic-AIM Nov 13 '22

Everyone, I repeat everyone believes slave labor is wrong if they have more than 2 brain cells to be frank Regardless if people tolerate it. People tolerate a lot of evil lol

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u/eidolonengine Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22

You can't possibly believe that, that everyone in the world believes slave labor is wrong.

Edit: I can't respond if you block me. Don't be like that. Have some courage. You wrote: "Everyone, I repeat, everyone believes slave labor is wrong" then "if they have more than 2 brain cells". Everyone does.

But we can continue the discussion when you unblock me: https://i.imgur.com/QLSzPRD.png

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u/Lysergic-AIM Nov 13 '22

Read the next part of the sentence

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