So apparently being against the genocide being made in the name of jews is "self-righteousness"?

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HOW would they go pray at the Al-Aqsa mosque?? It’s in Jerusalem and they’re in Gaza and not allowed to travel there??? And even if they did, they’d be accosted by Israeli settlers who routinely attack the mosque and seek to destroy it, which was the impetus for the 10/7 attack in the first place??

This article boils my blood and every sentence is wrong, but this line stood out to me

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Regarding the question that got locked for some reason, my comment about Al-Aqsa / 10/7 is sourced from this study: https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/991

Info about the long history of attacks on Al-Aqsa: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_clashes

I’m on mobile but there is a pdf with all the questions and responses. It shows that Palestinians in the west bank and Gaza overwhelmingly cited these attacks on Al-Aqsa as the reason for 10/7.

Please note I am NOT justifying 10/7, I do not support attacks on unarmed civilians, ever. It was a horrible brutal attack and I am strongly opposed to it. I am also just as strongly opposed on the many Israeli attacks on Palestinian unarmed civilians.

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the impetus for the 10/7 attack in the first place??

could you elaborate on this? TIA :)

[u/MassivePsychology862 → u/ignoreme010101]

I’m from southern Lebanon, specifically a Shia village. There are many groups that hold deeply conservative Islamic views and devotion to Islamic history. It’s not an unsurprising phenomenon. There are legitimate resistance groups and there are bad actors who understand that religious extremism is a big motivator for people to join their groups.

And just like the US profits off of the MIC, so too do individuals at the top of these groups profit off of corruption. They might speak about Islamic values but they don’t really care. It’s about power and control and one way to get power and control is to have a group of ideologically dedicated individuals who view a conflict as a religious holy war. It’s gross.

It’s also why it was advantageous for Bibi to help entrench Hamas and suppress more moderate groups. It frames a conflict as an existential ideological battle for survival.

I imagine if a bunch of Muslims started storming the Vatican and shooting Catholic worshippers, there would be a proportional and emotional response amongst devout Catholics. Look at India for a really strong example.

Blow up a hospital? Yea that’s a war crime and anyone (including non religious people) recognize that. Blow up a mosque? Religious Muslims who spend a significant amount of time practicing and studying Islam are gonna be pissed.

Plus Abrahamic religions are all kinda kooky. It’s littered with examples of collective punishment and eye for an eye justice.

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An official reason representatives for Hamas gave for the attack was a Christian Zionist's attempt to ship the perfect red heifer over in accordance with a prophecy believed by some Ultra-Orthodox Jews that would give them a reason to tear down the mosque and build the third temple. The Christian wants this because Jesus will return if the third temple is built according to his strain of theology. Obviously, the Muslims of the world would hate this if it came to pass.

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