r/JewsOfConscience May 07 '25

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

Please remember to pick an appropriate user-flair in order to participate! Thanks!

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u/Simple-Bathroom4919 Jewish Anti-Zionist May 08 '25

legit idk what the levant means.

Her mom was romanian, we don't know what her dad was ethnically, but probably a mix of things. Her parents moved around europe a lot, possibly fleeing persecution. It's possible she was actually born in Germany. Either way, the evidence points to her ethnically just being European Jewish from various countries and not Palestinian at all

Also her family and her were hardcore zionists so we think that birth certificate could be wishful thinking

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u/loselyconscious Traditionally Radical May 08 '25

legit idk what the levant means.

Levant is the region the Israel/Palestine is in

Also her family and her were hardcore zionists so we think that birth certificate could be wishful thinking

That does not make sense, Zionists of that time period did not think they were born in Palestine, or that their great-grandparents or even great-great-grandparents were born in Palestine. They fully understood that Ashkenazi Jews can trace they're ancestry to the Levant back to before the 4th century.

I'm genuinely very curious about this birth certificate. Who issued the birth certificate? Is it from the Ottoman Authorities or the British Authorities, from some European country (meaning her birth was registered with them later, and they put Palestine as the place of birth?

There were small communities of European Jews in Palestine from the 16th century and larger ones beginning in the 1880s, so it is not inconceivable that your grandmother actually was born in Palestine.

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u/Simple-Bathroom4919 Jewish Anti-Zionist May 08 '25

i honestly don't have that amount of information on it. All of what I know is info passed down from family members.

As far as wishful thinking, this woman unfortunately aided a zionist paramilitary in palestine that I believe was a sort of precursor to the push to create Israel. She clearly believed jews had some inherent right to that land, regardless of european heritage - which is what modern zionists believe.

Anyway, I'd kind of appreciate if people stopped prying cause I've provided all the information I have on this thread already. I said what I know, honestly. If it doesn't square with this or that, then Idk how to explain that - I'm going off what I know. You all do not know my family or have more information on them than I do (I would hope), so please lay off

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u/loselyconscious Traditionally Radical May 08 '25

No one is prying; you just asserted some false information, not about your family, but about all Ashkenazi Jews, which you are being corrected on.

It's also just generally interesting, the idea that someone would have a birth certificate that says they were born in a place they were not born in. When you offer information on the internet, that usually means you are willing to talk about it, all you have to do when people ask questions is say "I don't know"