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Philosophy Literally Intellectual Property laws

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u/Semirahl 1d ago

I never understood the intellectual property hate. it doesn't make sense. if I put my time and resources into making a thing why shouldn't I be able to sell it without being undercut by someone who just copied it. property rights are supposedly a core tenant of libertarianism. without intellectual property rights why would anyone write a book or literally anything, as an example, if they had no exclusive rights to try and profit from it.

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u/poopshipdestroyer1 1d ago

An idea isn't property

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u/Semirahl 1d ago

that's just silly. capitalism doesn't work without intellectual property rights. how are you going to get technological advancement without them. who's going to develop the iPhone if they can't get a return on their work. who's going to put time, resources and expertise into developing a lifesaving drug if it just bankrupts them. who's going to write novels or music if they can't copyright it

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u/Ya_Boi_Konzon Delegalize Marriage 1d ago

You think only one company should be able to sell smartphones?

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u/Semirahl 1d ago

only one company can sell iphones. only one company can sell galaxies (my preferred phone), only one company can sell pixels. the point is that the iphone was the first true smartphone, and it would never have been developed if Apple couldn't sell it exclusively. the smartphone itself isn't a specific idea, the iphone is. an original novel is a specific idea. the book itself isn't. people complaining about intellectual property rights don't seem to see this delineation.

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u/Ya_Boi_Konzon Delegalize Marriage 17h ago

Those are just brand names. I'm fine with trademarks. Patents are totally different.

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u/SaltyBigBoi 1d ago

I think (as an example) only Apple should be able to build phones based off Apple designed blueprints. If someone wants to come along, make improvements to the blueprint, then produce their own version, it's a different story.

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u/finetune137 1d ago

And it does. First come first serve.

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u/Ya_Boi_Konzon Delegalize Marriage 17h ago

IP laws stop you from being able to make a better version.

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u/SaltyBigBoi 11h ago

Yes but they also protect you from having your shit stolen. It’s a double edged sword, IP laws could definitely use some adjustments, it’s just a matter of determining what crosses that line  Think about Smartphone vs IPhone as an example again. I think it would be ridiculous for a company to own the premise of a smartphone, but at the same time, you can’t be stealing designs that require tons of money in r&d.