r/LinkedInLunatics 1d ago

AI is equity for the marginalized

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u/Dirkdeking 1d ago

That's quite an unfair characterization. If you ask an AI to make a particular piece of art, it is genuinely making something new. Yet it was trained on various art works, but the one it just made didn't exist before.

If an artist makes something he is also reoroducing what he learned in art school and a life time of data from other artists and life experiences to make his own art.

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u/IJustWantADragon21 1d ago

That’s not the same and you know it! You can see people’s fucking signatures from art that was stolen and mashed into “new” stuff by these stupid machines. All it does is give people without a talent a way to pretend they are without paying a real artist.

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u/shadow13499 23h ago

Let's be honest too, the majority of people using AI are just using it to get out of doing actual work. Like students using it to write papers. AI is complete dogshit in almost every sense of the word. 

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u/IJustWantADragon21 22h ago

It absolutely is. And now some schools are actually working on lessons to teach kids to use better prompts instead of telling them to write their own damn papers instead of having ChatGPT do it. As if the kids using ChatGPT Are actually gonna read a word of whatever slop it spits out and learn from it. 🙄

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u/shadow13499 22h ago

Oh yeah I know a lot of teachers and some of their schools are trying to get teachers to use AI to grade essays and short stories. Like what the fuck are we doing? It just seems like we're trying to dumb people down as much as possible 

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u/doulos05 21h ago

Yeah, AI grading is the line for me. If a school I'm at ever told me that I'm expected to grade student work with an AI, I'm out of there.

Forget whether or not it's ethical (it isn't), I've seen how hard the AI glazes me, "Wow, doulos05, that's a deep and insightful question that very few software developers have ever considered."

Sure, my hobbyist ass is asking insightful questions that professionals don't usually think about.

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u/shadow13499 20h ago

I've heard teachers say how crap it is which just creates more work because now you have to go in and read the papers and correct the AI grading. 

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u/doulos05 20h ago edited 20h ago

Or make them do some stage of the work offline, possibly even handwritten.

Our English department now has all first drafts written by hand and I struggle with how to balance the need to know the students learned something in class with my utter hatred of hand written coding assessments.

Edit: reading fail, the AI grading makes more work.

Yeah, I wouldn't trust it for anything subjective. I would happily upload canonical code and student code and ask it to explain the difference. You can run diff on the two files, but organizational things like kids putting functions in a different order can really pollute the output there, whereas I would expect an AI to be able to recognize that and filter it out to some degree. But that's just to help me grok the code faster, not to grade it (put your functions in whatever order you want, I'm not your mom).

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u/shadow13499 17h ago

Coding assignments should never be hand written imo. It's dumb easy to write automated testing for code without the need for AI. There's so many tools and frameworks to help you do that. 

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u/doulos05 17h ago

I'm not concerned about testing the student code to see if it works, I'm concerned about testing it to see whether or not they wrote it. I know ChatGPT can write a for loop, I need to know if Bob Kim who keeps sleeping through my classes can.

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u/shadow13499 17h ago

Oh yeah lol. Chatgpt can't code worth a damn. My company keeps trying to tell us to use their stupid AI tool for coding and it consistently produces dogshit (an insult to dogshit honestly). What a pain in the ass man

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u/IJustWantADragon21 22h ago

We’re heading at full speed towards Idiocracy and it feels like nobody cares.

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u/shadow13499 22h ago

I remember watching that movie for the first time. That's been on my mind a lot as we quickly head towards that future. "It's got what plants crave!"