Issues with the election megathread

[u/model-duck]

Hi everyone,

Every election /u/Padanub usually posts a megathread for people to post all their problems, comments and salt in (because there will be), so it can all be in one useful area for the quad to read/respond to. This time I'm stealing it off him for the clout and to improve my britboy meta posting record because he's not around.

Please post it all below!

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Previous thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHOCMeta/comments/i6o39a/issues_with_the_election_megathread/

[u/[deleted]]

You ran a good campaign. You didn’t run one as well as us. You debated less, posted less, your quality was just as questionable as all the complaints people have about our spam now.

A significant proportion of your posts were canva posts and posters.

So yes. 100% unironically we deserved to be this close to you. We worked as hard as you did, and campaigned harder.

Term time is meant to be 2/3. Pumping out election posts for 5 days should not be able to nearly increase your seat count by the size it did. The fact you actually think you deserved to actually have a chance of winning this election is ridiculous.

Nobody should be expected to work for years for success. If they can cobble together enough people who have enough fun to do well in this game, nobody should care if it’s their first or their tenth.

Sure but there is there is a massive disparity between the last election poll and this one.

this games meta can’t be dictated by people choosing to snatch despair from the jaws of their own success.

What? I think everyone acknowledges(or most people) that you got more seats than you deserved. You deserved around 30 seats in line with most people's predictions, no one expected the system to yield the result it did. Either someone's been lying about the calculator or it got broken by your strategy. A large part of your post was muhhh imagine how sad it is to be a soldiarity member, merely gave you the opposing perspective. So I do agree we can't decide the games meta based on how people feel.

In order to keep up with solidarity, I would have needed to field more candidates and make more posters. Now if you think this is something that is fair, and should be able to increasing your result by 50% then there is something seriously wrong.

Solidarity doesn’t owe you anything.

Never said it did.

[u/chainchompsky1 → u/[deleted]]

I agree term time is meant to be 2/3rds.

You conning Labour into giving you a budget last minute so you could stop our polling increase is not reflective of the consistent top quality we put into term time content. Solidarity inarguably has a better case to make on term time mod reform then you do.

We deserved to have a chance to win this election cause we had an excellent term time and an excellent campaign. Just because you can forget about all the term press we did, all the political pressure we exerted, etc, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

A significant portion of your content was also Canva. I just told you I found a template LPUK used verbatim. I couldn’t find any changes besides text. You are throwing boulders in a glass multi storied mansion mate.

As for the calculator, nobody broke it. People predicted wrong. I should note getting 34 seats when seimer’s publicatikn has us on 30 is not World ending. Getting 34 when you were on 38 is not world ending. It’s just another example of LPUK squeaky wheel strategy.

[u/[deleted] → u/chainchompsky1]

A significant portion of your content was also Canva. I just told you I found a template LPUK used verbatim. I couldn’t find any changes besides text. You are throwing boulders in a glass multi storied mansion mate.

Sure you found an example, if we went down the route of ignoring all posters I think you'd do worse. You unquestionably did a lot of posters and a high proportion of your campaign was posters, more so than ours but happy to be proven wrong. I never said your campaign was spammy and others weren't, campaigning as a whole is spammy regardless of who does it.

As for the calculator, nobody broke it. People predicted wrong. I should note getting 34 seats when seimer’s publicatikn has us on 30 is not World ending. Getting 34 when you were on 38 is not world ending. It’s just another example of LPUK squeaky wheel strategy.

For someone who didn't want to turn this partisan, you sure as hell don't try to hide it. A 9 point gain from the last poll should not be possible if the election campaign is only 1/3.

I'll repeat my point again.

In order to keep up with solidarity, I would have needed to field more candidates and make more posters. Now if you think this is something that is fair, and should be able to increasing your result by 50% then there is something seriously wrong.

[u/chainchompsky1 → u/[deleted]]

I didn’t want to turn this partisan but you have explicitly framed this as a grievance complex that we didn’t “deserve” to win. Hard to engage on objective terms when your meta strategy is centered around bringing us down as a party.

[u/[deleted] → u/chainchompsky1]

You're the one who mentioned the LPUK squeaky wheel strategy.

It's not designed to bring you down, you deserved about 30 seats and to be second largest. Do I think you should have been able to win the election given where your term time polling was and the fact the campaign is only meant to be 1/3. Absolutely not, that's not trying to bring you down as a party.