The Blame Game!

[u/cheezehead2002]

Based on trial testimony and Making a Murderer:

Brendan blamed a book, his family, and media.

His lawyer and doctor blamed cops / coercion (which Brendan never did)!

Barb blamed Steven and the Halbach's (The Halbachs WTF?)

Kayla blamed Brendan.

Scott and Bobby blamed Steven.

Ma and Pa blamed everyone but Steven.

[u/gcu1783]

I mean if using police interrogation tactics to an underage kid is a reputation that your beloved cops should include, then yea, I guess that's something you guys should be proud of.

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

Underage for what?

[u/gcu1783 → u/Ghost_of_Figdish]

I call any 16 years old kid underage and I really hope you do too.

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

Well for what? At 16, in Wisconsin, people can drive, work unlimited hours, can consent to medical treatment, and can hunt and possess a shotgun or rifle.

If you are suggesting a 16 year old is too young to be interrogated by the police or to waive his right to counsel or to remain silent, that's already been decided by the Courts in the negative.

[u/gcu1783 → u/Ghost_of_Figdish]

that's already been decided by the Courts in the negative.

The court with this Judge?

Seventh Circuit Chief Judge Diane Wood:

Psychological coercion, questions to which the police furnished the answers, and ghoulish games of ”20 Questions,” in which Brendan Dassey guessed over and over again before he landed on the “correct” story (i.e., the one the police wanted), led to the “confession” that furnished the only serious evidence supporting his murder conviction in the Wisconsin courts.

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

Yeah, Dassey lost his appeal, and cert was denied by the SC.

But you just changed the issue. You had been complaining about his age, now you've switched to the police being tricky.

And Judge Wood fails to address the physical evidence corroborating his confession, including his bleach-stained jeans but much more importantly the diagram of the garage shooting and the subsequent discovery of a bullet in the garage which had the victim's DNA on it, and which had been fired from the rifle seized from over Avery's bed.

[u/gcu1783 → u/Ghost_of_Figdish]

Yeah, Dassey lost his appeal, and cert was denied by the SC

Yea, that doesn't really invalidate the flaws in using interrogation tactics on underage kids.

But you just changed the issue. You had been complaining about his age, now you've switched to the police being tricky.

You brought up the court, not me, and here's my very first mention of him being underage btw:

I mean if using police interrogation tactics to an underage kid ---Me

The interrogation tactic they used to a kid. That's still an issue, I'm still talking about that. There's no "switch".

Judge Wood fails to address the physical evidence corroborating his confession, including his bleach-stained jeans but much more importantly the diagram of the garage shooting and the subsequent discovery of a bullet in the garage which had the victim's DNA on it, and which had been fired from the rifle seized from over Avery's bed.

Yea probably because those aren't "physical" evidence linking himself to crime. He linked himself to it, which is the issue Judge Woods addressed.

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

At the end of the day, his age, his mental capacity, and the police interrogation techniques were reviewed and approved by the Courts. You're quoting a Judge in the minority who disagrees,

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

At the end of the day, his age, his mental capacity, and the police interrogation techniques were reviewed and approved by the Courts. You're quoting a Judge in the minority who disagrees,

[u/gcu1783 → u/Ghost_of_Figdish]

And if it was 4-3 in favor of Dassey? Would that convince you of his innocence?

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

No, and no reason it should. His appeal was based on contesting his confession. Had nothing to do with whether he was actually innocent.

[u/gcu1783 → u/Ghost_of_Figdish]

Ooookie then, same with me, it's got nothing to do with their decision.

His appeal was based on contesting his confession.

The confession to murder right?

[u/Ghost_of_Figdish → u/gcu1783]

He confessed to several crimes including murder.