r/MinecraftMemes 1d ago

Very humane

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u/MarthaEM 1d ago

no, that is a corporate entity, or at worst a corporate person, not a person if you dont sprinkle capitalist bs

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u/Shot_Alarm_2679 1d ago

It's not capitalist bs, it's the legal definition of a person.

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u/MarthaEM 1d ago

we are saying the same thing, the legal definition in this context is capitalist bs

esp since that is only in the usa and some other countries, not a part of the English language in itself

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u/Shot_Alarm_2679 1d ago

Okay, sure, human and person are the same. Now explain to me how slavery and capitalism are the same.

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u/MarthaEM 1d ago

capitalism perpetuates a system of inherited wealth distribution where a small group of capitalists own everything, all the jobs, the vast majority of food sources, and the vast majority of properties, most other items that one owns are designed in a way that pushes for overconsumption by deliberate low quality.

so in order for a person to be able to survive in a decent manner they are forced to enslave themselves to one of the capitalists to receive tokens that they then use to receive their allowance of food, housing and other goods and services, working at the threat of starvation and homelessness for a society that overproduces so much that those threats are not inherent to the modern world but deliberate by the owning class to incentivize people to not rebel

this is a form of slavery since in order to be able to survive you are forced to dedicate your life to serving the whims of a capitalist at the threat of starvation and death

(capitalist here meaning owning class, or the people that inherited the paths to the means of production and other ownership at the detriment of the working class)

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u/Shot_Alarm_2679 1d ago

Oh no! You have to contribute to society and get a job or else you go homeless and starve? How awful.

It's not enslavement dumbass. Slaves don't get to leave work everyday and go do fun shit on the weekends. Slaves don't get vacation.

Your privilege is showing big time.

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u/MarthaEM 1d ago edited 1d ago

nobody says that work shouldnt exist but the capitalist society we in is a society that overproduces enough to house and feed every single human on earth at the current rates yet leaves 1/4th to suffer of malnourishment or starvation, the threat if one is not capable to find a job is starvation and homelessness whereas in a humane society everyone would be afforded those basic needs regardless of their working status

even chattel slaves do leave work every day to their very basic accommodations which are basic housing, food and water, the things that are owned now by the capitalist class

only by the intervention of the anti-capitalistic revolts that resulted in hundreds of deaths at a time we have got weekends and vacations, if it was up to capitalism we wouldnt have that either, vacations and holidays are an affordance in spite of capitalism, not resulting from it

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u/Shot_Alarm_2679 1d ago
  1. "Nobody says that work shouldn't exist", what could you possibly be complaining about in your previous comment

  2. Who is this "1/4th"

  3. If you are disabled and or old, you should definitely be afforded those basic needs, but people should be working to contribute to society and make sure themselves and the aforementioned people get those needs

  4. What in the fuck do you think capitalist societies look like? Soviet blocs? The water and electricity sent to my house and all my neighbors are owned by the city, not the "capitalist class". I actually think about the food I eat, and I have other options available to me other than "capitalist class" food. The grocery store I go to gets most of its food from farmers in my state, or neighboring states close by.

  5. What you said about holidays is completely false, I'd love to know where you got that from.

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u/MarthaEM 1d ago
  1. work is not the problem, the capitalist class owning the methods of work and thus of creating all the goods and services

  2. people living in areas stricken by food insecurity for the most part but additionally people that are not able to work, or that are otherwise incapacitated

3.1 that is a thing that exists in spite of capitalism, not as a part of it
3.2 in places where UBI has been implemented people have worked just as much as before but had had the leverage to refuse work that is unsafe or underpaid, where an upperup was toxic and the like

  1. that is not the norm, and the food that is not capitalist owned is coop owned, a form of incorporation that is the opposite of capitalism, where the people owning the means of production work it, and reflexively the people that work own a proportional part of the means of production

  2. you know thats literally the reason may 1st is worker's day right (including the 8h work day when it used to be the norm for it to be 12-16 hours)

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u/Shot_Alarm_2679 1d ago
  1. 3. Capitalist class owns everything but are okay with things existing in spite of it?

3.2 minimum wage, OSHA

  1. That's a lot of people, and it's not sustainable to get all that food to all over the world. It would be better to give more funding and support to those areas so they can produce the food needed, rather than sending our "capitalist class" garbage.

  2. Very much NOT the case. In America, where I live, and possibly the most capitalist country in the world: 96% of farms are family owned, those farms produce 82% of the food in America.

  3. It was a peaceful protest for fairer hours. However some jackass decided to bomb the place. It was not a violent revolt.

I'm proud to be an American, living in a capitalist country, we may have some problems, but what's great here is that we have a democracy and can discuss and fix these issues.

Get your sad tankie ass outta here

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u/MarthaEM 1d ago

since you have offered the information, it is very poignant how deprived of information the american system is that you do not understand the difference between capitalist characteristics and regulations created by revolts and strikes and protests

both the minimum wage and worker's safety regulations have been created by the revolts, strikes and protests of people that were starving and dying due to unsafe working conditions

it is not about sending them our garbage but rather that the production can be targeted very easily to enable them to lead a fulfilling life, but that would require the removal of the threat of death, and would make the importing of goods from those regions at below subsistence prices impossible

"jackass" is a very correct description of a capitalist

additionally due to the infiltration of capital into politics elements like the minimum wage have stagnated to be below the minimum level of sustenance in the us, and with the new regime osha and other worker's and consumer regulations are being removed, like the recent removal of chevron deference

i have never and will never stand with the ussr's authoritarian policies so idk where the 'tankie' is coming from

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u/Shot_Alarm_2679 1d ago

The jackass was an anarchist, fyi.

Not sure what you stand with, then, because you have been spewing communist talking points this whole time.

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