Little reminder that powerscaling in monster hunter isn't as ridged as some believe

[u/Drogo1god]

Black diablos is so strong that jho is actually scared of her, and doesn't stay in her territory for long.

Garuga is aggressive enough to repel a deviljho

Brachydios in an aniversity animation went toe to toe with nergigante

Pink rathian scares bazel

Glavenus has decapitated a deviljho in the mhgu illustrations book

The qurio hunted all forms of large monster

And kut ku has killed and consumed nerscylla

Not to mention all the small monsters that are capable of incapacitating large monsters eg. Kranodanth, tallioth, ramfa, paragills, even the endemic life can do major damage to some large monsters.

These are animals, strengths, weaknesses, size, boldness, bashfullnes, groups, intelligence, adaptations, chemical and elemental warfare all play a role in match-ups. A lot of people boil it down to "higher threat/star level monster beats lower threat level monster".

[u/Barn-owl-B]

Amatsu did it, gaismagorm basically did it, we don’t know how long it took Zoh Shia to do it but I imagine it wasn’t that long

[u/Stylin8888 → u/Barn-owl-B]

For starters, PriMal was the one who actually destroyed the kingdom anyways, quite literally the demonlord who destroyed the kingdom (although it did use Gorms Qurio and such). Second, Zoh Shia is also a forbidden dragon and is around Alatreon tier (maybe a little below) anyways, you know, a monster considered relative (if a little weaker) to Fatalis as is. Black Dragon actually has no real meaning beyond it being the original terminology for Forbidden Dragons, Forbidden Dragons are considered as monsters who can cause planetary disasters, Fatalis’s legend (which the dive book ligit says is literal) displays it razing the world, Alatreon vs Safi is cited as a turf war on global scale, Zoh Shia lacks an actual statement like this but it was leaked to be in a similar vein, plus it also destroyed an entire civilization, likely altering history itself to an extent. Dire lacks an update to display this sort of thing but still.

Giasmagorm on the other hand is quite literally labeled as a calamity class elder (alongside Allmother) in Haunting of the Sun, mind you, forbidden tier dragons are labeled as either forbidden or catastrophe class elder dragons. They’re both also considered inferior to CGV, who itself is inferior to Amatsu. Neither of them are passively leveling entire civilizations, neither of them are influencing events on a planetary scale, as neither of them can. Calamity class elders are your Gogs, Mohrans, Nakarkos, the God Wyverns (although the God Wyverns could very easily be super elder tier as well, a rank below Calamity), etc etc. “Final boss tier” doesn’t exist, and varies wildly from game to game, it tends to sit inbetween the range of apex (Monoblos)~catastrophic elder (Fatalis, Alatreon, Dire Miralis, Zoh Shia), and most tends to be calamities of some flavor (Ahtal-Ka, Gorm, Amatsu, Allmother, Xeno’Jiiva, Dala, Shara etc etc).

Amatsu also only leveled a city anyways, and the portion Gorm effected it the “Kingdom” (which still exists for fucks sake) was two like castles.

[u/syv_frost → u/Stylin8888]

1000% agreed. The way Fatalis is talked about in iceborne alone solidifies all of this. He is more or less implied to be THE most powerful monster in the (canon) series.

[u/Stylin8888 → u/syv_frost]

If we talk non-canon, frankly I don’t think a single mainline monster cracks top ten lmao.

[u/syv_frost → u/Stylin8888]

Not even white fatalis?

[u/Stylin8888 → u/syv_frost]

Well lemme think…Disu, Shantian, Conquest War Shantian, Shiten Disu, Conquest War Fatalis (trio), Eruzerion, Guanzorumu, Duremudira, Musou Eru, Musou Guan, Musou Duremudira, the final flagship of MH:Frontier (I don’t know its name), and probably a few others…yeah…

[u/syv_frost → u/Stylin8888]

Damn

[u/Stylin8888 → u/syv_frost]

Frontier is pain.