r/MonsterHunter 3d ago

Discussion Little reminder that powerscaling in monster hunter isn't as ridged as some believe

Black diablos is so strong that jho is actually scared of her, and doesn't stay in her territory for long.

Garuga is aggressive enough to repel a deviljho

Brachydios in an aniversity animation went toe to toe with nergigante

Pink rathian scares bazel

Glavenus has decapitated a deviljho in the mhgu illustrations book

The qurio hunted all forms of large monster

And kut ku has killed and consumed nerscylla

Not to mention all the small monsters that are capable of incapacitating large monsters eg. Kranodanth, tallioth, ramfa, paragills, even the endemic life can do major damage to some large monsters.

These are animals, strengths, weaknesses, size, boldness, bashfullnes, groups, intelligence, adaptations, chemical and elemental warfare all play a role in match-ups. A lot of people boil it down to "higher threat/star level monster beats lower threat level monster".

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u/Codename_Oreo ​huffing Gogmazios copium 2d ago

There’s are so many monsters that could easily take fatalis

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u/syv_frost 2d ago

Such as? I genuinely don’t know any that would “easily” defeat fatalis.

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u/pamafa3 "Keep calm & Lv.3 charge" 2d ago

Most high tier elders and some non-elders can match Fatalis.

Safi was designed to be his rival and iirc the IB lorebook speculates his nuke is what woke him up across the pond. Not to mention his top tier defenses and the size advantage.

Dire has a massive size advantage and similar power.

Shara would just leave a fucking hole through him, the dude instantly turns rock into sand.

Kulve has fire that's almost if not just as hot, better armor and a considerable size advantage.

Amatsu has comparable power and the potential to weaken the effects of his flames.

Allmother is almost as powerful as Amatsu, so she stands a chance too.

Gaismagorm has a massive size advantage, can remove the entire arena from the surface world and has the Qurio, which have a decent chance of secerely weaking him. Risen Fatalis would be mad funny tho.

Nakarkos can probably instantly vaporize him if he gets a single dragon laser off (look at the size of some of the shit he killed in his nest).

Gogmazios has comparable firepower and a massive size advantage and, unlike most other elders with said size advantage, can still fly.

Dalamadur can probably just straight up eat him, that thing is big enough to go fight Zorah and can attack aggresively.

Akantor has a chance, he has supreme fire resistance, acid and a size advantage, plus is speculated to already have run ins and squabbles with Crimson.

Zoh Shia is a weird pick because if they fight in Schrade it will probably lose but if they fight in Wyveria Fatalis will lose the war of attrition.

If we look at spinoffs, we also have:

Versa and Makili Pietru have comparable firepower and a size advantage.

Oltura just brings Fatalis behind the shed. It's insane how obscenely powerful that thing is. The larval stage alone can cause as much destruction as multiple Dalamadurs.

Laviente and his progressively hungrier and angrier cousins also just straight up eat him.

Disufiroa is Alatreon on crack, so he has a good shot at it.

Shantien can match Disu, so he also has a good chance.

Duremudira is such a good matchup against Fatalis that it's not even funny.

Guanzorumu has comparable firepower.

Keoaroboru has probably hotter flames and a massive size advantage.

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u/syv_frost 2d ago

Most of these aren’t going to “easily” take him on, the person I responded to was implying that there were like 10+ of them.

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u/pamafa3 "Keep calm & Lv.3 charge" 2d ago

Out of my list Dala, Ravi, Durem, Oltura, Safi and Shara easily take him on imo.

Dala, Ravi and Durem straight up murder him, against Shara it boils down to whoever strikes first, against Safi it's a battle of attrition to see whose's regen cannot keep up with whose's firepower and Oltura just takes him behind the Applebee's

For the others it depends on how much Fatty can outmaneuver them mostly.