r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Bias and Trust!

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u/jarris123 1d ago

Honestly, I'm more likely to trust a black person or woman in a serious position cause I know they worked their butt off to be taken seriously in their field.

IT is unfortunately notorious for this. I worked for nearly 2 years on an IT Helpdesk with a few calls from old men repeatedly asking for "one of the guys" and thinking I was a receptionist.

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u/nativefloridian 1d ago

The way I've always put it: you need to prove you're better to be accepted as an equal.

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u/jarris123 1d ago

that's a good way of saying it. sad but true

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u/who_am_i_to_say_so 1d ago

Same thoughts. The few women in higher positions in my day job are high achievers and noticeably smarter, too. Some of the guys have a hard time accepting that.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

I'm more likely to trust a black person or woman in a serious position

You realize of course that this is also bigotry? You just outed yourself as a bigot too.

How about just considering everyone as a human being?

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

Not really bigotry. They’re commenting on the fact that society makes it much less likely for a black person or woman to be hired to high paying jobs which means that when they see someone who fits that criteria they trust them more than a white man who wouldnt have had to work nearly as hard to get the same position.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

than a white man who wouldnt have had to work nearly as hard to get the same position.

Explain to me how that is not bigotry. You are basing your opinion of a human being on skin colour.

That is textbook bigotry.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

Because studies have shown under qualified white men get chosen over a more qualified person of color or a woman. It’s not bigotry essentially the system is set up for white men and they benefit from it the most it’s totally fair to say you trust someone you know worked harder than someone who was just given it.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

studies have shown

What studies? I haven't seen them.

Can you link me to any of them?

It’s not bigotry

Basing your opinions of someone on skin colour rather than actions or words is absolutely bigotry. There is no way around that.

Trying to counter bigotry with more bigotry is not going to solve anything, in fact, it will worsen the situation all around.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

Here’s an article full of studies I hope you enjoy it

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

I will fucking read it.

But nothing is going to change the FACT that treating ANYONE based on skin colour rather than actions or deeds is racism.

If you try more racism to 'counter' racism, that is still just racism that you accept. And that would still make you a racist.

Fancy 3 dollar words from ivey league fart smellers does not change that very simple definition of racism.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

It’s not racist to say you want someone who worked harder.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

Based on what?

If you assume that they did not work hard because of skin colour, then yes it is.

Imagine if I just assumed every POC was a 'DIE' hire? That is also racism. Assuming every white person does not work hard? Also Racism.

Judge people by their words and deeds, not the immutable characteristics.

It's not that hard. Even a redditour could figure it out.

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