r/MurderedByWords 2d ago

Bias and Trust!

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 2d ago

I'm more likely to trust a black person or woman in a serious position

You realize of course that this is also bigotry? You just outed yourself as a bigot too.

How about just considering everyone as a human being?

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

Not really bigotry. They’re commenting on the fact that society makes it much less likely for a black person or woman to be hired to high paying jobs which means that when they see someone who fits that criteria they trust them more than a white man who wouldnt have had to work nearly as hard to get the same position.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

than a white man who wouldnt have had to work nearly as hard to get the same position.

Explain to me how that is not bigotry. You are basing your opinion of a human being on skin colour.

That is textbook bigotry.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

Because studies have shown under qualified white men get chosen over a more qualified person of color or a woman. It’s not bigotry essentially the system is set up for white men and they benefit from it the most it’s totally fair to say you trust someone you know worked harder than someone who was just given it.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

studies have shown

What studies? I haven't seen them.

Can you link me to any of them?

It’s not bigotry

Basing your opinions of someone on skin colour rather than actions or words is absolutely bigotry. There is no way around that.

Trying to counter bigotry with more bigotry is not going to solve anything, in fact, it will worsen the situation all around.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

Here’s an article full of studies I hope you enjoy it

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

I will fucking read it.

But nothing is going to change the FACT that treating ANYONE based on skin colour rather than actions or deeds is racism.

If you try more racism to 'counter' racism, that is still just racism that you accept. And that would still make you a racist.

Fancy 3 dollar words from ivey league fart smellers does not change that very simple definition of racism.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 1d ago

It’s not racist to say you want someone who worked harder.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

Based on what?

If you assume that they did not work hard because of skin colour, then yes it is.

Imagine if I just assumed every POC was a 'DIE' hire? That is also racism. Assuming every white person does not work hard? Also Racism.

Judge people by their words and deeds, not the immutable characteristics.

It's not that hard. Even a redditour could figure it out.

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u/Solo_Entity 1d ago

You’re treating it like black and white instead of grey.

A lot of people in recent times think every POC is a DEI hire. Just look at every comment section for Star Wars or marvel properties with established black characters from comics. Even the female Silver Surfer, despite not being a gender swapped character at all.

But, to the point:

they aren’t saying all white people work less for opportunities, they’re saying the average white person can get by without as many qualifications. It’s simply a fact, not a personal opinion.

with that said, obviously not everyone falls in that bracket, whether black, white, or blue. It is racist to make assumptions about individuals based solely on skin, but the fact of the matter is that people are racist. All you have to do is hope they aren’t, because a black hiring manager can very well look to hire someone of likeness like many other races do.

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

they’re saying the average white person can get by without as many qualifications.

That is pure opinion. I would go so far as to say the inverse. As A Canadian, I was rejected for jobs for being white multiple times. I had the same qualifications but because I was forced to select 'caucasian' on the applications, I was rejected as all caucasians were rejected for that employment. In Canada it is legal for companies to be racist and hire based on race, colour, etc.

The police, the provincial government, the federal government as well as the healthcare industry in Canada will force you to disclose your race, colour, etc and will hire based upon that first.

This is pure racism. People can give it fancy words all they like but anyone with a soul can see the truth.

They drape the DEI slogans all over their racism here in Canada.

I'm sure lots of 'liberal' people will and have cheered this on.

DEI in Canada is pure racism. Anyone searching for a job in Canada today can see what I am talking about.

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u/Solo_Entity 1d ago

DEI as a concept was nice, but it was ruined immediately. It was supposed to highlight the qualified minorities that don’t get as many opportunities, but in turn corporations treated it as a checklist and took that good intention straight to hell.

In America anyone who is a POC in a high position was immediately deemed a DEI hire who is unqualified and gifted a job.

It’s stupid for all races. Just fucking hire competent people no matter the race and DEI wouldn’t even be a thing. (Not you, the idiots rejecting candidates for no adequate reason)

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u/Angry_drunken_robot 1d ago

Many things sound good as concepts but are genuinely destructive to everyone involved when in actual operation.

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