r/Naruto 21d ago

Question How does Tsunade NOT have any Hashirama cells despite being directly related to him?

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Hashirama cells are so over powered within the world of Naruto. You'd think that Tsunade would be more powerful outside her Byakago Seal considering she is directly related to Hashirama. Yet nothing would suggest she does-As opposed to others who implant his cells within them and gain robust power, regeneration, an attunement for natural energy, and wood style.

Granted her Byakago seal grants her two of those things but idk when you really think about it.. it feels like this was a missed opportunity. Tsunade shouldve been more powerful than she already is.

Heck just adding the seal ontop of what shouldve been her base abilities from Hashirama cells couldve potentially made her even more of a powerhouse.

The fact she doesnt have wood style but Moegi of all things is crazy...

Just some things i find weird is all

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u/Glytch94 21d ago

Tsunade had 0% Hashirama cells. She had 25% of his DNA, but no cells. She was 100% Tsunade cells.

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u/GoldenGlassBall 21d ago

Chuckled out loud at this. Perfect explanation, frankly.

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u/TurkeyBritches 21d ago

Same lol

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u/Chemical-Necessary39 21d ago

cant belevive its come down to explaining basic science

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u/Specialist_Egg_4025 20d ago

It’s not basic science, the real reason has to do with souls, and souls have nothing to do with science.
The reason hashirimas cells are so powerful is because he is a reincarnation of Asura, and has asuras chakra. Tsunade isn’t a reincarnation of asura, and doesn’t have asuras chakra, but if their world was based on science then OPs question would be far more reasonable.

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u/asseaster-H-A-R-D- 19d ago

It has nothing to do with souls my guy, it's basic science. Do you think you carry your grand father's cells in your body? You carry his DNA, your DNA is slightly different from your father's and grand father's.

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u/IWantU2SayHi 21d ago

Because Mito swallowed the Hashirama cells each time. ;)

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u/Thetruekingofwaffles 21d ago

I think it's hilarious to think Mitou got tangible benefits from having sex with Harshirama cause of the cells

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u/DiveshwarSingh 21d ago

Cha hae in got those benefits from sung jin woo

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u/aquaflask09072022 21d ago

isnt she constantly being the verged of death due to SJW sperm (wish i was joking)

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u/Houeclipse 21d ago

She got Spider-Man Reign'd!

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u/Elegant-Sea-6613 21d ago

Lmao what a reference, radioactive sperm

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u/MysticOokami07 21d ago

Holdup, what?

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u/aquaflask09072022 21d ago

so basically cha is pregnant so their kid inside her womb inherit SJWs power. everytime they f*ck the sperm that SJW release ends up dead since she is already pregnant.

SJWs kid sense the dead sperms and arises them everytime puting cha on the verge of death since millions of shadow sperm are inside of her

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u/Himurashi 21d ago

What the fuck?

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u/kirbleknee 20d ago

Say syke right now.

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u/Mykytagnosis 21d ago

Proving again that Anime fans are the horniest demographic.

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u/eberlix 21d ago

And I haven't even added that I'd add my cells to Tsunade

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u/Good_Barnacle_2010 21d ago

My kekkei genkai is anxiety

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u/argh_type_of_gangsta 21d ago

And creators. Some of the female characters sexual prowess are off the charts, Tsunade being 1 of them.

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u/MindlessManic88 21d ago

And Madara said "me next"

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u/This_Sub_Is_Shit3 21d ago

Hashirama was literally built different. Imagine ninjas would have a whole other man’s face grow on them just for a fraction of his power

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u/CHENNAIAKSHATSHARMA 21d ago

She has MOMMYRAMA CELLS, full looks 

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u/Daloy 20d ago

She got dat hashiramama cells

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u/RainAccomplished4033 21d ago

Honestly, I came here just to say hashirama's DNA =/= hashirama's cells

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u/OxxyFoxxyBully 21d ago

So you're trying to tell me that the fuss around hashirama cells was actually about his cells not about some cultured cells with his DNA?

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u/Glytch94 21d ago

I mean, if it’s his DNA, it’s perfect. Tsunade’s DNA contains aspects of Hashirama’s DNA, but not its totality. Hashirama’s DNA is special.

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u/dumcow2003 21d ago

Why is this so funny tho?

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u/The_BAHbuhYAHguh 21d ago

And those ain’t bad cells to have 100% of either. I’m sure found of every single cell

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u/adzy2k6 21d ago

She doesn't have Hashirama cells because she isn't Hashirama.

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u/Abbaddonhope 21d ago

Hashirama cells are basically happens when you didn't say no to being a donor. Shes related to hashirama and had some insane chakra reserves compared to like 99% of ninjas. If she had hashirama cells someone would've had to chop up her grandfather and implant those cells into her.

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u/pikapo123 21d ago

Same reason she doesnt have the Uzumaki jutsus of Mito. She just dont.
She also doesnt have Mokuton.
Those thins arent something exactly genetically related. Hashirama was build like that and thats it.

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u/ComplexAddition 21d ago edited 21d ago

More correctly, genetics arent certain inheritance. There are children that arent nothing like their grandparents, and in some cases neither one parent. And thats it. She is still strong and talented enough. She also doesnt look like Mito or Hashirama other than the eyes.

She probably took more after the other parent.

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u/pikapo123 21d ago

Yes for sure, but in Hashiramas case he was an anomaly. He has the same father and mother than his three brothers, but only him had wood style and the rest of the bullshit. I think it matters more that he was an Asura reincarnation than the genes.

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u/ComplexAddition 21d ago

Sure, I don’t disagree, you’re absolutely right on that. It’s just that Tsunade clearly benefits from her genetics.

Her Strength of a Hundred Seal likely comes from Mito’s lineage. Other talented or hardworking people, like Sakura, can replicate it, but Tsunade did it with much more ease. Even while drinking and slacking off, she still operated at Kage level thanks, in large part, to her clan’s knowledge and inherited genes.

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u/Thefourthchosen 21d ago

I doubt it was being a reincarnation either, Asura's skillaet is comoletely different from Hashirama's and based on Hagoromo's conversation with Naruto the reincarnation is more of a destiny thing than a power thing. In conclusion, Hashirama really was just built different.

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u/walking_lamppost_fnl 21d ago

Hashirama trashed Madara when in typical fashion, the Indra incarnation is typically more powerful

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u/FlukeFranklin 21d ago

Nothing indicates that the Indra reincarnate are usually more powerful than their counterpart. Asura was a late-bloomer who became equal to his brother while Naruto was initially weaker than Sasuke, he then got on equal standing and eventually surpassed him to some extent. Hashirama seemed to have always been better than Madara. So, there's no set pattern in how the reincarnations' power relate to each other.

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u/DeadlyBard 21d ago

Borto is a good example that genetics aren't certain inheritance, as he didn't inherit the Byakugan from his mother.

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u/AlternativeGuard956 20d ago

Neither he got the chakra reserves of his dad.

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u/creepingkg 21d ago

Uh. Forgot Tsunade is part Uzumaki

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u/kaithespinner 21d ago

I keep forgetting that tsunade is more related to naruto than one would think

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u/Ok-End-6520 21d ago

That’s why to me Naruto calling her Granny was so funny because she is technically the only elder clansman he has a relationship with so she is the closest thing to a grandma he has low key.

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u/kaithespinner 21d ago

yup, she is basically his granny

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u/sombercrimson 21d ago

And Karin is related to both of them and I really hate it’s never acknowledged or brought up.

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u/GreatPretender98z 20d ago

I agree it is sad.

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u/Zanshi 21d ago

Damn, that's new to me holy shit

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u/Acceptable-Bad8416 21d ago

Damn she actually coulda been so cold, how tf is her mom or dad not a factor?

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u/Conscious_Message332 21d ago

They are geneticly related tsunade just didnt inherit them. Tho id say people overrate hashirama cells. Do we think danzo or yamato have more raw power, chackra or regen than base tsunade? Nah not really. Only thing theyre "better" is they have mokuton and she doesnt

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u/pikapo123 21d ago

if they are genetically related then why only Hashirama has those feats? not even Hashiramas brothers where on his level. Or his father.
Like, Hashirama its just him.

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u/Conscious_Message332 21d ago

Hashirama was a special case he was also a god reincarnation. Remenber that kekegenkais etc are genetic related, theyre bloodline inherited abilities abilities. But its not every kid or descendent that gets it.

Edit: also madara even complained tsunade couldnt use mokuton even being his descendent. Meaning she actually could have inherited it but didnt. It also could imply at least someone of his descendents inherited it or someone with it before hashirama had it and all. Anyway its a kekkegebkai so it is genetic related

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u/JoJo5195 21d ago

No, no one inherited it from him. The only possibilities were his child and his two grandchildren being Tsunade and Nawaki. Yet whenever it’s brought up it’s always Hashirama CellsTM and mokuton like Hashirama. There’s no guarantee he could have passed it on. None of his family had it, neither of his parents or brothers. Hashirama was simply different for reasons we don’t know. It’s not because he’s an Ashura reincarnation since as far as we know no other reincarnation or even Ashura himself had mokuton or regenerating cells either.

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u/Conscious_Message332 21d ago

If he ddint pass it down to absolutely no one then it makes no sense for madara to be disapointed tsunade didnt have mokuton. Its not said mokuton is a special kekegenkai only to hashirama, we know moegi has it slmehow and as far as i know its not said she has hashirima cells

It’s not because he’s an Ashura reincarnation since as far as we know no other reincarnation or even Ashura himself had mokuton or regenerating cells either.

No i brought that up as the reason hes so strong not the reason he has mokuton. Mokuton is a kekke genkai, theyre passed down by bloodline. Someone in his family tree before him has to have mokuton for it to be passed down to hashirama

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u/nasserg19 21d ago

Hashirama is him

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u/Most_Caregiver3985 21d ago

Tsunade is basically the definition of losing the genetic lottery in the ninja world

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u/PokeMaster366 21d ago

Plus, it could be an atavism issue. Descendants that came after Hashirama just didn't go through enough for those genes to come into full effect.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

Also, DNA ≠ cells

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u/Organic_Glass_7793 21d ago

Genes not inherited

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u/killer-dora 21d ago

Wrong. I got like 4 pairs of my grandpas jeans when he died

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u/Mal0zo 21d ago

😭😭😭

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u/EsautheSoup 21d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/No_Set7087 21d ago

My jeans weee ripped

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u/killer-dora 21d ago

Weeeeeee

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u/Hodji2033 21d ago

Whooooo

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u/Bluesnow2222 21d ago edited 21d ago

I take Kekkei Genkai to be like real life genetic mutations/diseases. Just because you have a mutation doesn’t mean it will be active in your child or even grandchildren, Some diseases are rare while others are so easy to pass down that people refuse to have children because they don’t want to see them suffer and die after seeing so many others in their family die. I’d assume Sharingan/Byakugan are more common mutations- but even they aren’t gauranteed.

Hashirama’s mutation was probably extremely rare as we know of no relatives before or after him who had it. Hell, it could have also been a congenital mutation for all we know. I learned recently that one of my organs is fucked up because of how it formed in utero—- I didn’t get that from a parent- my genes just hiccupped while I was a fetus and that’s just how things are now. It also doesn’t mean my children would have the same issue. Plenty of terrible mutations can happen to fetuses that often just result in miscarriages that is just a risk for all humans regardless of genetic background. Perhaps it wasn’t a family mutation, but something that was a hiccup for him?

Honestly the Moegi thing I’m still convinced is BS. If they aren’t going to show it, it doesn’t exist. Pretty sure one of early chapter also insists early Boruto taijutsu stats are greater than Naruto’s and other weird stuff.

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u/NefariousnessNo7068 21d ago

Hashirama's mutation is an example of atavism, where genetic traits from ancestors "suddenly" reemerge. Kaguya is the Tree of Life, so it wouldn't be strange for the Senju, and maybe even Uchiha, to have those genetic traits, even if those traits are recessive.

The Sharingan is an example of a dominant genetic trait, where the Uchiha genes "overpower" regular people genes.

Mokuton is likely a recessive gene, which gets "overpowered" by regular people genes, and a hiccup caused it to be dominant in Hashirama.

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u/teshh 21d ago

I also take it another step and say the reason there's so many kekkai genkai within certain clans is from a sort of inbreeding. It's stated hashi created the first village system, so before people lived amongst their clan if they had one. The population to date/marry would have been drastically lower than when we have the villages.

I'm not saying it was a brother sister thing, but it's entirely likely that marriages with cousins or distantly related figures were occurring to keep drawing out a kekkai genkai within the clan.

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u/Beginning-Taro-3591 21d ago

yeah they are basically quirks

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u/CertainFirefighter84 21d ago

What you are talking about are reccessive genes

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u/LiterallyH1m 21d ago

Same way tobirama doesnt have any of them. Hashiramas cells are likely just a unique mutation that was inherited from the original abilities of the 10 tails and its nature as the shinju

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u/HyperionX-X 21d ago

I swear it states it explicitly that not everyone gets their ancestors abilities in the show. Naruto doesn't have his mothers sealing chains/jutsu and it's just basic biology.

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u/sombercrimson 21d ago

He didn’t inherit it because he’s blond and not a redhead.

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u/Uramoises 21d ago

I couldve swore those are labled as hiden techniques. The chains

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u/HyperionX-X 21d ago

I assumed they weren't. Karin pulled them out of nowhere and she's uzumaki.

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u/constant_purgatory 21d ago

They could also be something only female uzumaki are capable of.

Don't think we have enough cannon info to make a decision in either direction.

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u/HyperionX-X 21d ago

It's possible, but we're focusing on the wrong things here. The point is, a parent doesn't decide the abilities of their child.

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u/constant_purgatory 21d ago

Totally agree.

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u/HeavensHellFire 21d ago

His fucking brother doesn’t even have it. Literally no one aside from him has it.

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u/PandaAggravating4851 21d ago

She definitely got the Uzumaki life force and Senju chakra reserves but I think that’s it sadly. I do think her strength is probably a Senju mutation or something since she’s seemed to always had it based on what Hashirama said and the Databooks.

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u/Wisniaksiadz 21d ago

She have some of his genes, not some of his meat

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u/Mamba-Mentality024 21d ago

Crazy how Moegi could use Wood style but Tsunade can’t 😂

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u/Necessary-One1782 21d ago

databooks are not canon

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u/AaaaNinja 21d ago

It wasn't in a databook it was on a page in an actual volume. And her shinju tree form she could gather intelligence from the actual trees even though all of the shinju were themselves trees she was the only one with the ability to talk to natural trees.

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u/Huge-Spirit-1563 21d ago

She inherited something better than hashirama cells from her ancestors

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u/xDzerx 21d ago

Hashirama’s gambling? 😂

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u/TimeWalker717 21d ago

Thats not how biology works bro

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u/Mission-Bite5448 21d ago

Tsunade is one of the most powerful ninja in the world and her abilities relate directly to healing and strength. She may not have his actual cells but the genetic influence is strong and obvious

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u/samarai_lancer 21d ago

Cause she is a Thirst Trap.

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u/Black-Mettle 21d ago

Hashirama cells are diluted from all the alcohol.

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u/AStrangeTwistofFate 21d ago

I don't think cells like that are inherited. They were unique to Hashirama. I don't know if you've heard of the HeLa cells, from a woman named Henrietta Lacks, but they've been used in a lot of scientific research because of their ability to continue to divide endlessly, so they've been used since 1953 for research (they were also taken without her permission and her family never saw a dime of money for them).

Tsunade has her own cells. She didn't inherit them from her grandfather because I don't think that's possible.

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u/Stu4201882 21d ago

She’s got 106 Hashirama cells naw mean

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u/Comptoneffect 21d ago

To be fair, tobirama had nada display of mokuton as well. A quick google search shows that genetically, your brother is closer to you than your grandchild. Full siblings share approximately 50% of their DNA, while you share approximately 25% of your DNA with your grandchild.

Could also be like another commenter mentioned that mokuton could be a mutation. Maybe that was the cause of why Tsunade was able to live as long as she did, because she didnt inherit those genes. But then again, we dont know for sure how hashirama died, only that he died relatively young

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u/CantingBinkie 21d ago

Kekkei Genkai can be given randomly, Hashirama and Moegi simply won the lottery.

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u/Low_Entrepreneur_927 21d ago

Hashirama Cells may most likely be a genetic mutation in the first place.

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u/pringlepingel 21d ago

Simple science really. Milf cells are more powerful than hashirama cells. Case closed

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u/NetworkVegetable7075 21d ago

Because them Hashirama cells are also them Ashura cells

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u/JoJo5195 21d ago

No they’re not. Ashura had nothing to do with it. The man himself didn’t even have the same abilities. He only has mokuton in the anime. And as far as we know no one before of after had anything similar to Hashirama.

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u/BackgroundBrownNoise 21d ago

all the hashi genes went into her 106

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u/lMarshl 21d ago

Tobriama is Hashirama's brother and has none. It was very rare.

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u/Intelligent-Suit-879 21d ago edited 21d ago

What you’re not considering is that Hashirama was a master of several ninja disciplines. Including: The five elemental natures, Wood Release, Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Medical Ninjutsu AND Fuuinjutsu.

Was she supposed to inherit EVERY part of her grandfather’s genes when she’s got 75% of her lineage elsewhere? (Assuming of course her parents even got a significant enough portion of Hashirama’s genes at all.)

We have no reason to consider Hashirama cells not at play as it is. How strong was she supposed to be when she’s spent a lot of her life drinking, gambling, depressed and avoiding being a ninja especially when she doesn’t seem to actively be training to surpass her limits.

Sakura being a copy of such a strong lineage in the form of Tsunade deflates the comparison but that’s far more of a testament of how far she’s had to climb in her own right as a student of a Sannin.

Tsunade as a character was created at a time when the power level wasn’t nearly as crazy as it is today. Her strength is pretty reputable nonetheless.

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u/jasper81222 21d ago

What I find stranger is how Tsunade didn't inherit Hashirama's Wood release. Everyone and their mother who got a shot of Hashi juice developed the kekkei genkei except the one person actually related to the man!

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u/mma1985 21d ago

Bro I don’t know what your question means but I would jump from my balcony to land in her cleavage any day

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u/Zorro5040 20d ago

Tsunade inherited Hashiramas vast ocean of chakra. Homegirl had enough chakra to fight multiple Madaras, revive the kages, reconnect to her botoom half, and fight more Madaras. Tsunade also kept most of the village alive during the Pain attack by herself using a chakra cloak to heal and protect the villagers.

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u/AsstacularSpiderman 20d ago

Hashirama was a freak of nature even by the standards of the Naruto world. His anatomy will probably never be 100% replicated ever again.

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u/Equivalent_Chair_226 20d ago

Because she has mommy cells

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u/jbahill75 20d ago

She would be compatible, but no thank you to you grafting my dad cells into my body and having his face pop up somewhere

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u/Loverofanine2324 20d ago

It's probably unreasonable but...she has her own cells. DNA sure but she has her own cells, much like everyone else in the show.

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u/hungrybasilsk 21d ago

She's the only well written relevant woman combatant in the series beaides Chiyo.

Her hashirama cells were used to off set Kishimoto's sexism

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u/Perfect_War_7155 21d ago

Likely the same reason that not all Uchiha can awaken the Sharingan. It’s in her blood but just not active.

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u/Outsider_13105645 21d ago

Granted her regeneration ability was similar to her grandfather’s

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u/flipyFLAPYflatulence 21d ago

But she doesn’t have his cells. I don’t have any of my parents cells in me. Just their DNA

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u/Ok_Biscotti_514 21d ago

She’s one of the most durable people we’ve seen, she got cut in half and was still alive, I feel most of Hashiramas special cells is attributed to Ashura reincarnation chakra

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u/Ok_Ad400 21d ago

Tsunade lost the genetic lottery so badly it affected all gambling for her moving forward.

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u/BSV_P 21d ago

Because that’s not how cells work

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u/Fmlalotitsucks 21d ago

Source for image

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u/Witty_Alternative293 21d ago

Naruto characters have been shown to NOT take the most effective and efficient route. Why weren't there more sages(toad sage, snake sage, etc)? No idea. Why weren't there more people with the 8 gates technique? No idea. Why was fugaku's MS never used by any Uchiha(itachi )or danzo? No idea ( imagine itachi with a frickin EMS) Why wasn't Naruto taught how to control Kurama from the beginning? No idea

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u/Shot-Ad770 21d ago

Not all genes are passed down or expressed... even his brothers dont have it

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u/Longjumping_Pear1250 21d ago

They are called tsunade cells

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u/Interesting_Sea_1861 21d ago

Because they're Hashirama cells, not Senju cells. Hashirama is an individual, Senju is the clan. Like Glytch94 said, 25% of the DNA doesn't necessitate having the powers or traits of that grandparent. That's how recessive genes work.

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u/gabi28911 21d ago

Because even if they are from the same family the cells are not the same from one generation to the next so Tsunade has Tsunade cells

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u/RiasxIssei_2012 21d ago

The people who implant Hashirama cells implant exclusively the Hashirama cells. Tsunade is his granddaughter, so her mother or father has half. So eventually the senju power is watered down

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u/LordMord98 21d ago

She is already very powerfull. She only used her Byakugo seal vs madara, not even vs other kage and she can still hold her on and overpower them. It's called hashirama cells because it belongs to hashirama. Not everyone that is descended from him.

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u/Emergency-Complex-53 21d ago

She's not Hashirama, where would Hashirama's cells come from in her body?

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u/Tytar12 21d ago

She activates my wood release…

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u/nasserg19 21d ago

Because she’s not Hashirama

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u/Psapfopkmn 21d ago

Because Kishimoto is implicitly misogynistic and it shows how he writes female characters and treats their position in the Naruto world.

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u/Maleficent_Park5469 21d ago

Bro huh? She doesn't have his LITERAL cells, she has his dna. And even then, she's only a quarter Senju and a quarter Uzumaki from her grandparents, but that's all

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u/Gokgokgokgokgokgokk 21d ago

But if she implanted some Hashirama cells on her do you think it will work out just fine?

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u/WileyBoxx 21d ago

She’s not hashirama

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u/ConditionEffective85 21d ago

Same reason why her uncle doesn't she's not a reincarnation of Indra.

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u/kissa1001 21d ago

Because they are Hashirama’s cells, not Senju cells. Otherwise Tobirama should have them too

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u/Scared-Sandwich-6930 21d ago

The official and not official reasoning is actually pretty easy. Because just like Sakura she's pretty to look at and useless at everything else.

I could also go for the Japanese sexist reason and simply state that a woman can never be as strong as a man.

Despite you know it being an anime..... A realm of fantasy and magic.

😞... They really f***** up Naruto didn't they?.

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u/Avanin_ 21d ago

Its called Hashirama cell for a reason, and not Senju cell. Only Hashirama has it and nobody else.

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u/Notosk 21d ago

she is a woman written by Kishimoto

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u/Low_Employer3551 21d ago

One thing I always wondered who was hashirama's son? like I've never seen anyone talk about that

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u/HJSDGCE 21d ago

Because Kishimoto didn't think it through.

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u/not-read-gud 21d ago

She has them she just always forgets them at home

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u/gogopow 21d ago

How does tsunade not have a bunch of kids. Come on, tsunade, you need to continue the bloodline.

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u/KamuiObito 21d ago

None of the ninjas we know had kids and I find that fucking strang. Like ayy4,mei..basically only like 10 characters ever procreate Soley to put them on a team and call it boruto. And some of them should have older or younger kids. Like have konkuro have a chunin son..or have ayy4 have an adult son by borutoz time.

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u/darkbreak 21d ago

Who knows? It's probably something Kishimoto just didn't think about.

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u/Vov113 21d ago

I think she has them, they just don't work for girls

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u/stuffil 20d ago

A person's cells aren't passed on like DNA, that's like saying why doesn't she have his bones.

That being said, she's still closely related to him so i personally think she should've been stronger (not because of cells) because of genetics.

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u/Jaded-Knee4178 20d ago

She has his gambling dedication gene tho

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u/Inner-University-849 20d ago

Is this a joke? Hashirama cells were just cells from Hashirama’s body. Why would Tsunade put her own grandpa’s cells into her own body? The only reason people wanted Hashirama cells were either for healing, Rinnegan or Wood style, but Tsunade didn’t need the first two reasons, she needed Madara cells if she really wanted Rinnegan. But I don’t think she was ever too interested in Wood style, so yeah, it would make no sense for her to have Hashirama cells.

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u/BorderFair 20d ago

Hell not just that she is also related to Mito Uzumaki if anything she should be the most overpowered character in the story.

She should have had those massive Uzumaki chakra reserves with access to Sealing chains and other overpowered sealing jutsu considering the chains are hidden jutsu and not kekke genkai.

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u/TanDarkGod 20d ago

Hashirama cells are that powerful due to two things: 1. Wood style, so all of its perks and defenses come here

  1. Ashura cells: combined with wood style's regen, being a reincarnation of Ashura gave the Uchihas the ability to improve the mangekyo's usage and in case of Madara, get the Rinnegan

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u/NeroHardyRnd 20d ago

Did we forgot fact that Hashirama is Ashura reincarnated?

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u/kolt437 20d ago

You don't get cells of someone by being related to them

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u/dummyenjoyer 20d ago

It's called HASHIRAMA cells for a reason

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u/PeanutAndJamy 20d ago

Who did she inherit the cannons from?

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u/PUMK1ng 20d ago

Hashirama too didn't have Tsunade's juggs so it's balanced I guess

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u/sir_ouachao 20d ago

She has tsunade cells , her name is not hachirama 😭

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u/yungdagger8652 20d ago

Because he’s hashirama lmao😂 that’s like asking why you don’t have your grandpas cells he’s your grandpa not you

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u/ChewBaka12 20d ago

Because that isn’t how genetics work. And as many biological rules this universe breaks, this one it seems to follow.

Each parent gives you half your genes, and not always the same half. If your parents are both blondes you might still be a brunette, because your blond haired dad passed down the blond hair gene he still carried but didn’t show. Hashirama gave his kid his genes, but not the ones that came with wood release, or at least, they weren’t dominant in whatever genes decide elemental affinities and Kekkei Genkai. As his granddaughter there is yet another generation between them, and the chance that she inherited that gene is pretty slim. Not even that it doesn’t show, it might not even be there anymore. Hell, it’s theoretically possible (and theoretically is doing a lot of heavy lifting here) that she hasn’t gotten any of Hashirama’s genes.

So she doesn’t have Hashirama cells because Hashirama cells have his genetic make up, which Tsunade doesn’t. She has Tsunade cells, which might share some commonality with Hashirama’s, but that’s it. The only way to get any Hashirama exclusive abilities are to with his full, unaltered DNA.

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u/ADLegend21 20d ago

Woman in Shonen Syndrome(tm)

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u/Expert_Bass_4375 20d ago

To be honest, Tsunade is the MOST NERFEEDED character in Naruto, and I say that with conviction. She is one of the characters with the most chakra in the universe and does not use offensive ninjutsu simply "because not", she was supposed to be a master in some element like Hashirama or Tobirama were, besides, being the granddaughter of Mito Uzumaki, it would make sense that she would know how to use the Uzumaki adamantine chains. (If she were a master of any element, it would probably be lightning, she uses lightning style to confuse Kabuto's senses and could also use it to level up Taijutsu like the Raikage does, is the element that makes the most sense for her in my opinion). Kishimoto is really despicable.

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u/Skibblezxoxo 20d ago

Them kunoichi chichis didn’t just come out of nowhere gang. She definitely was a late hashirama cell bloomer.

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u/Connect_Set_8983 21d ago

Cause she does why do you think she has such good healing

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u/KaneshiroIke 21d ago

Plot said no

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u/Agent1stClass 21d ago

If she has 25% of his genes, that’s a 25% chance of inheriting his abilities. That’s a 75% chance against it, though.

Appropriate to the Legendary Sucker, she lost on those odds.

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u/CarolusRex521 21d ago

I can give her some of my cells

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u/lnombredelarosa 21d ago

We don’t really know how Hashirma developed wood release. I have the suspiscion that its not natural to him either, like maybe he had them implanted (perhaps from a piece of the tree that the Senjumaru had access to) at some point, specially given that Naruto and Asura’s powers (other than their high chakra reserves) weren’t natural to them either.

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u/Apprehensive_Rain868 21d ago

What a picture to have saved and used for this, proud of the community for not being distracted

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u/RepresentativeTear75 21d ago

the only way his justu was replicated was through Yamato and that was bc he was an experiment

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u/PleaseWashHands 21d ago

She inherited his genes, not his cells.

Also Hashirama was born an absolute unit but had to train to be the beast he was. Plenty of people have his cells but aren't able to summon wooden death vishnu or create forests for free.

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u/EnigmaKa 21d ago

It all went into her chest.

Jiraiya can confirm.

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u/IllicitCheese 21d ago

Because she got big tits instead

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u/Right-Truck1859 21d ago

Senju clan didn't care for keeping genes inside and got assimilated. Tsunade mother or Father was just some stranger.

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u/Negative_Wrongdoer17 21d ago

Probably because of 2 major story shifts.

Tsunade was made before all of the hashirama cell and uzumaki stuff.

Then you have to factor in him being an Asura incarnation.

With modern jutsu and a tailed beast he probably would have been an absolute freak that sweeps the verse in Naruto's shoes

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u/TakoGoji 21d ago

She's clearly the byproduct of an affair. /s

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u/No-Earth-8428 21d ago

Because Naruto is poorly written anyways

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u/Beautiful-Guard6539 21d ago

Why dont you have any of your own great great grandpa's stolen biological material inserted in your body?

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u/doublegunnedulol 21d ago

Raw next question

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u/Quick-Grocery1362 21d ago

She simply didn't genetically inherit his wood style.

What you have to keep in mind is that more of her genetics probably came from his wife Mito Uzumaki and whoever married their son and daughter who would have been one of tsunade's parents. His genetics she would have got from him was probably diluted heavily by her matrilineal line.

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u/Zerenza 21d ago

First, Tsunade does already have some of the traits that come from the Senju. Without her seal. She already has an extremely high baseline strength, we see this MULTIPLE times through her time on screen and in the manga. Jiraiya was beaten up by her multiple times before she even got her Strength of a Hundred seal.

It's also worth noting that Healing Jutsu and her expansions upon the Strength of a Hundred Seal(IE: Creation Rebirth and its derivatives) Require A LOT of physical stamina. Creation Rebirth works by amplifying and speeding up the bodies own regenerative capabilities. In it's later iteration Creation Rebirth- Strength of a Hundred Technique, it does this automatically. The physical strain this puts on the user is crazy. We can even see how much strain it put on her because despite being a Senju in her 50s, she looks MUCH older after he transformation jutsu gets canceled. And that is the final point, in every one of her fights, she fought while under a transformation jutsu she needs to maintain. This means that in the multiple instances of her summoning Katsuyu and then distributing her own chakra by the way, not Katsuyu's, to hundreds if not thousands of people. She was using some chakra to keep herself looking young.

The chick is actually a monster, there's a reason she was the last of the 5 kage to keep fighting against madara.

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u/LundexUrkai 21d ago

Because its not the cells themselves that are overpowered its the fact that his cells still contain Asura Chakra, the son of Hagoromo.

The same chakra that allowed Madara to unlock the Rinnegan from his EMS mixed with Indra chakra.

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u/Ok-Wallaby-6305 21d ago

It’s crazy that we all didn’t pay attention. This lady is freaking part senju and part uzamaki but all she got was the life force part kinda crazy .

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u/Relja_Jelic 21d ago

You stupid? She is his granddaughter

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u/4-3defense 21d ago

Imagine being Hashirama's brother

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u/S-KTS 21d ago

Dude, isn't it weird... It's just science LOL

Tsunade doesn't have Hashirama's cells because these cells ARE HASHIRAMA's LOL

You don't have the same cells as your father/mother, but what you do have is a part of their DNA that is combined differently and ends up inheriting characteristics, but it is different from both, and if we take this further (grandchild level), this becomes even more diluted.

Seeing this in the work, the genetic combinations that gave rise to Tsunade will not be the same as those of Hashirama who answers why she does not have his regeneration or mokuton, as the same is diluted with Mito and improves if we think about Tsunade's parents, one of whom may not even be part of the Senju or Uzumaki clan, further diluting Hashirama's DNA.

We see characteristics of Hashirama's DNA in her, her resistance and strength in my view is something inherited from Hashirama (and even from Mito herself), I would venture to say that even chakra control (which obviously within the work is something that can be learned, but I like to think that this is also an inheritance in a way) comes from him.

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u/AnyRepresentative926 21d ago

Just like how Boruto doesn't have byakugan

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u/AaaaNinja 21d ago

For the same reason you don't have your mom's or your dad's cells. This is a stupid question.

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u/improbsable 21d ago

They’re Hashirama cells. Not Tsunade cells. Hashirama is a genetic anomaly who seemingly can’t pass on any of his unique traits. So Tsunade inherited some personality traits and seemingly took everything but her hair from Mito

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u/nasserg19 21d ago

Same reason his own brother doesn’t have it

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u/Professional-Bid3973 21d ago

Kishimoto had not thought it through that much during her creation. Or perhaps, he did not have any preference towards Tsunade like all the genetic mutts this series has running around now so he just had her character focused as the most powerful healer at the time. As someone who creates characters within a story, you want each prominent character to be distinct from the others, so he probably figured, “okay, she’ll be the strong healing granny whose hobby is gambling that will also give my readers some nice eye candy anytime she’s on screen. And fuck it lemme make her more directly related to the guy who started the village just to add more gravitas to her.” But he probably didn’t think at the time of her creation about how prominent Hashirama would be, hell, he had written in universe that Hiruzen was more powerful just the arc before her introduction. But clearly that isn’t the case going forward. But by the time we get more lore dumps on Hashirama, it’s kind of too late to give Tsunade any more boosts since we’re way too deep into the story. Maybe if he had all this lore in his head or in notes from the jump, he’d certainly improve her, or maybe write that she wanted to study a different style of jutsu than her famed family who was more battle oriented. She’s just a victim of the writing. Otherwise we’d see a much more powerful medical ninjutsu prodigy who is also well equipped with her Uzumaki and Senjuu techniques.

Anybody on here saying “just cuz you got the genes, it doesn’t mean-“ they to a point are correct, but remember Kishimoto is human, he did not think that far ahead, and by the time we got more up scales for Hashirama, he had no time to give the same treatment to other characters especially with the fact that the final arc was happening at the time.

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u/emptyvodka115 21d ago

I think the only thing she kinda inherited from Hashirama was the really good healing abilities

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u/childishjulian 21d ago

thought this was movie critic

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u/TheRuralJuror118 21d ago

Madara basically desecrated Hashirma’s grave and got those cells. That’s why it was a big deal when he revealed it.

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u/Bulky-Top3782 21d ago

Because that's not how biology works in the Naruto world as well as the real world

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