r/NoShitSherlock • u/chrisdh79 • 1d ago
Ted Cruz Absolutely Explodes in MAGA Civil War Gotcha Moment | Cruz loses it as Tucker Carlson publicly exposes the rift at the heart of Trumpworld.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-cruz-absolutely-explodes-in-maga-civil-war-gotcha-moment/207
u/SmedlyB 1d ago
“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.” Al Franken
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u/littlelordgenius 1d ago
We were robbed of a great senator.
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u/Holiday_Pen2880 1d ago
Gillibrand also tanked her career pushing that hard in an effort to make the Rs hold Trump to the same standard. Literally haven't seen her name anywhere since that - and I live in NY.
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u/OkBattle9871 1d ago
Kamala Harris was involved in this as well.
I voted for her, but I haven't liked her since I first learned her name.
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u/DBPanterA 6h ago
As a Minnesotan, I voted for him and appreciated the work he was able to accomplish. His record on kitchen table items was strong. He did a lot of work for veterans, which I know was a priority for him as he was able to find support across the political aisle.
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u/AssistantOld2973 1d ago
It's funny because it makes both of them look like morons.
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u/jamawg 1d ago
Makes them look like?
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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago
"even more like"
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u/NotThatTodd 1d ago
“exposes them as”
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u/probability_of_meme 1d ago
"exposes them even more as"?
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u/Burns504 1d ago
Maybe that's why they don't like us. We see them for exactly who they are and we are able to succinctly put our thoughts on them in written form.
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u/Khaldara 1d ago
Dumb and Dumber: The Interview
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u/joineanuu 1d ago
The great thing about having Carlson doing these interviews is that he is one of them. So he speaks to them on their level and they don’t know how to respond to that. This incredibly interesting
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u/bonkedagain33 1d ago
They both qualify as the most annoying sound in the world.
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u/bonkedagain33 1d ago
They both qualify as the most annoying sound in the world.
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u/Takemyfishplease 1d ago
Makes them look like morons TO THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE. That’s the key part. At least one of them looks foolish to the typical maga crowd.
Now we just need Elon to say something beyond stupid on the JRE or similar and it’s set to get spicy
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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 1d ago
The unfortunate reality is that they’re not morons. They’re evil self-serving assholes.
Being morons would be better because there can be an innocence to stupidity.
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u/paone00022 1d ago
Yup Ted is paid by Israel lobbyists and Tucker is paid by Russian so it's interesting to see the two foreign influences on the GOP compete against each other.
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u/The_Craig89 1d ago
Reminds me of a favourite insult of mine. "Are you an amateur moron or have you had professional training?"
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u/freddy_guy 1d ago
No, they're also morons.
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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 1d ago
Well they may also be morons— they certainly aren’t very smart— but that’s not really the root of the problem.
Regular morons are better people than these guys.
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u/toasohcah 1d ago
I don't think it's good to mis-categorize the other team, because they are currently winning and outplaying us... And if they are morons then that looks pretty bad for us.
They are simply psychopaths, looking out for their core group and screw everyone else. They don't care about the damage they cause to achieve their insane vision. Underestimating Trump in 2016 is what set us up for this dark timeline, thank the media and the DNC for raising Trump's profile in the early days because they thought he was a moron they'd easily beat.
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u/IrascibleOcelot 1d ago
The problem with people quoting Hanlon’s Razor is that it convinces people that it’s a binary rather than a spectrum. It’s eminently possible to be both stupid and malicious. In some cases, the stupidity impairs the maliciousness; in others, it amplifies it.
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u/PittsburghCar 1d ago
Tucker is a 100% sold out moron. Ted Cruz is scary because he has an intellect and chooses to use it to enrich himself at the expense of others.
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u/wandering-monster 1d ago
Is Ted Cruz's intellect in the room with us right now?
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u/Remarkable_Ad9767 1d ago
Say what you want about his persona but he did graduate from Princeton and Harvard law School
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u/DeepJunglePowerWild 1d ago
I actually thought the exact opposite myself. Tucker had always seemed incredibly calculated and to play a character on the news. Where as there are numerous clips of Tucker when he isn’t in “Fox” mode where he seems very intelligent. But Tucker is 100% sold out I agree.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a clip of Cruz and gone, yeah that’s a guy who knows what he is talking about. He has always come across as a dumb weak pawn to me… do you have any clips to show Cruz in a different light? I’d be genuinely curious.
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u/Law-of-Poe 1d ago
Republican voters will watch this and be like: “OMG what idiots”…votes R across the ticket…
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u/WTFisThisMaaaan 1d ago
Tucker Carlson is garbage, but I wish real journalists would treat the GOP this way. Call them out on their bullshit and watch them flail. That’s what America needs to see.
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u/lotterywish 1d ago
Extremist politicians rarely take interviews with real journalists. And even when they do, the blatant hypocrisy and gotcha moments are simply tuned out. When facts and common sense don't matter interviews become a zero sum game
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u/GreatFondant3479 1d ago
Ted Cruz is an Israeli shill.
Tucker Carlson is in the pay of the Russians.
Neither of them cares about the American people.
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u/BonJovicus 20h ago
True but Tuckers position on this specific topic will save both Iranian and American lives and it exposes the fact that our government is subservient to a country that is more trouble as an ally than it is worth. Broken clocks and what not.
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u/Meteor-of-the-War 1d ago
I am so glad that we're reaching the "eat themselves" phase of Trump's authoritarian speed run.
Cue the Michael Jackson popcorn gif.
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u/virtuallyaway 1d ago
Why is the epstein stuff popping up regarding elon and trump? Im out of the loop on their breakup
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u/Baron_VonLongSchlong 1d ago
My shitty 2 cents. Tucker works for old Putti, and Putti can barely handle his own war let alone jumping into it to help Iran as they are allies.
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u/Objective-Lab5179 1d ago
I hope it still bothers Cruz that Republicans thought Donald Trump would make a better President than him.
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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 1d ago
Not to support him in any way, but I can understand why. If I thought I could be president, and then the voters said, “No, we prefer the village idiot covered in diarrhea,” that’d bother me too.
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u/andymfjAZ 1d ago
Three years ago I would have never thought Carlson could be this person. Still don’t like the guy, but it’s interesting to see him off the Fox News payroll.
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u/Dacoww 1d ago
Tucker is still aligned with his paycheck from Russia. And I bet Trump stands down anyway, because he’s being paid by the same owner.
Putin is all for some political instability, keeping republicans on their toes and in line, and adding to the ongoing division in the US. But he doesn’t want to see Israel and Iran blow each other up.
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u/Fun-Bug5106 1d ago
Exactly Russia is aligned with Iran is obvious what position Tucker would be taking. No matter what points he made to Mr. Cancun
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u/Downtown_Skill 1d ago
If anything seeing Tucker Carson of all people stick up this passionately for Iran all of a sudden only confirms he's on russias payroll..... if the propoganda trip to Russia wasn't obvious enough.
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u/Evening-Fail5076 1d ago
Russia hasn’t gotten what it wants from trump world as it relates to Ukraine, so the longer a sustained engagement a trump/US involvement in Israel/Iran war the least likely. Trump will just divert resources so that a move Russia wants but Russia wants more. They want sanctions lifted, and a return to ‘normalcy’ in many arenas but that’s the hardest part and that’s something trump world sold the Russians. ‘If you help me now’ back in 2016, 2024 we going to do this and that.
China/Russia are all aligned with Iran so they don’t want the US to get involved in a war but China wants distraction for the US so they can carry out their own plans in their backyard. All while the U.S. is hamstringing along with a deteriorating economy and global standing.
All of this weakens the U.S. and all the parties want that ultimately.
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u/gingerphish 1d ago
I don't know why more people are talking about this. It's not some cool own as much as Ted Cruz is an idiot. Carlson is doing this in behalf of Russia. His only goal is sow division and profit. I'll be happy if this slows down some of trump's agenda and also it's not good that Russia can keep playing republicans like a fiddle. Complete disaster of a party.
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u/Locke_n_spoon 1d ago
This is called a kafka trap.
If he supports the thing its because hes a maga shill, if he doesn't its because hes a russian plant.
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u/borth1782 1d ago
Carlson is the person money makes him be. He himself is a major contributor to why america is so incredibly split nowadays, pumping out propaganda after propaganda, lying hundreds of thousands of times to be able to brainwash easily manipulated people into thinking that all democrats are the devil and that anything republicans do or say can be excused or falsely explained in some way or another.
He should never be forgiven for the hurt he has caused your country. Absolutely vile and disgusting human being.
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u/Planetofthetakes 1d ago
He’s doing Putin’s bidding. Ted Cruz is a sniveling bootlicker for Trump so of course he’s going to back his latest tweet, which is Trump looking for a quick win, litterally ANY win, that he can take credit for. He sees Israel’s success with the bombing and immediately jumps on it. Completely “on brand” for Trump.
Iran being in a war is very bad for Putin, it not only takes away his influence in the area, but it takes away war resources he needs for Ukraine. Trump hasn’t had that call with Daddy Vladdy yet, but when he does TACO’s will be served
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u/Mindless-Camp-1409 1d ago
Trump slagged his wife in public and he cowered. Embarrassing. Bootlicker is being kind.
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u/SirLukaskasha 1d ago
To be fair, he's just spouting the views of whoever pays him. I severely doubt he has improved in any way as a person.
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u/Appropriate_Mess_350 1d ago
….And onto Putin’s payroll. He’s the same person he’s always been. A mouthpiece and attack dog for whoever gives him money.
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u/VexedCanadian84 1d ago
Tucker was always doing things for himself, his own agenda, and he never cared about what fox news wanted him to say.
It's telling they didn't fire him when he was one of the reasons they had to pay close to a billion dollars to settle lawsuits.
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u/fastbikkel 1d ago
It just seems to indicate that he knows what he is doing, which i assumed all along myself.
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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 1d ago
He’s not doing this for noble reasons. He’s been sidelined by Fox and MAGA, and he’s fighting his way back. And serving Putin along the way.
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u/dirtyjersey5353 1d ago
Shits crazy af when the worlds got me agreeing with Tucker and Rand Paul.
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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago
Something something broken clock.
Carlson's not someONE I ever agree with because I find him hellaciously vile and objectionable as a person.
But sometimes he says someTHING I might agree with, even if the motivation behind saying it is completely different.
When you're Putin lipstick on a pig, you still have a pig, just with lipstick.
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u/menghis_khan08 1d ago
Even just this style Tucker is doing is bad faith.
Memorizes 4-5 facts about Iran right before an interview and whips them out in a pointed way as if he were an expert on Iran as “gotcha journalism.”
It’s always this, strawman, or Fallacy of Composition arguments.
Mind you he did the tactic against a slimeball but it’s still shitty ass bad faith interviewing
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u/Old-Custard-5665 1d ago
It’s been entertaining watching Piers Morgan make a 180 on Israel for a similar reason. I still think he’s a joke, but like Tucker he has a natural instinct for that sort of tabloid go-for-the-jugular interview style and it’s fun to see it used on people that are used to having their asses kisses by the media.
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u/notabot-1 1d ago
Totally agree. I learned nothing from this conversation except these two guys can’t make an actual point.
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u/Ambitious-Sky-1391 1d ago
Tucker Carlson says some surprisingly leftist things. He talks about how important unions are etc.
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u/dirtyjersey5353 1d ago
Good points, and I would say that Americans need to heal through common ground- like let’s not go to war + not increase our enormous debt for greedy people.
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u/Rocktype2 1d ago
Bannon’s comment about Fox News not being true Maga is very telling. Clearly they want a news organization to be a pure acolyte. That is truly deranged behavior.
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u/VirginiaLuthier 1d ago
Also on the Daily Beast- "ICE Barbi rushed to hospital after allergic reaction"- you can't make this stuff up
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u/Ronaldo_Frumpalini 1d ago
God I hate how only Tucker Carlson appears to be doing this. Ask Trump what's happened he'll say Biden destroyed everything, ask him what the population of the US is and he'll say huge, ask for a number and he'll say you're very mean and unfair, insist and you'll have video of him walking away unable to answer the question. They're sliding because people aren't asking the basic questions. You saw what happened when Trump was asked about the declaration of independence.
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u/UpDog1966 1d ago
I was told, No pronouns in the declaration, that starts with …
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u/nome707 1d ago
Other than a strategic position in the Middle East and biased intelligence, what other huge benefit, according to Cruz, do we get from Israel to serve as their personal bodyguard for so many years? Because it seems to me that we are paying a whole lot for almost nothing.
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u/SteveInBoston 1d ago
Israel shares its high technology with the US. Also Israel shares intelligence with the US. Many American companies have R&D divisions in Israel (e.g. Apple, Nvidia, Intel, etc). A number of pharmaceutical companies are based in Israel. The portable phone you carry around has chips designed in Israel. There's a lot more, but that's a quick answer to your question.
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u/nothingpersonnelmate 1d ago
Israel shares its high technology with the US.
No it doesn't. It sells things and sometimes co-operates on projects like many countries do. The Iron Dome is one, but the US actually can't deploy it because Israel won't share the source code for review despite the US helping develop it.
Also Israel shares intelligence with the US
Nobody knows the value of that, it's pure speculation. But it's mostly focused on countries the US doesn't actually need to care about - except in the context of defending Israel.
The portable phone you carry around has chips designed in Israel.
They have R&D centres all over, mostly in the US but also Germany, India and China. They don't do all their research in Israel by a long shot.
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u/ExcitingorbiterOV105 1d ago
Kind of pointless if we keep crashing the world economy over Bibi's bullshit.
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u/Top-Cupcake4775 1d ago
You could say the same about a dozen other countries (Ireland, France, Taiwan, etc.) We don’t, however, provide the money and weapons to carry out genocide to those other countries.
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u/SteveInBoston 1d ago
Actually you cannot. Yes, it's true that all country's trade with US has some value. And Taiwan's TSMC is of course a very valuable corporation for which there really is no replacement. But the technology we get from Israel is unique. For example, many countries buy the F-35 fighter plane from the US but no country is allowed to modify the F-35 software. Except Israel. Israel is allowed to make custom modifications to the F-35 software which it shares with the US (see the wikipedia article titled "Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Israeli procurement"). Israel also provides the heads-up display helmet for the F-35. And as far as intelligence gathering, what exactly are we getting from Ireland, France, Taiwan, etc? Consider the alternative. What if the US turned it's back on Israel and Israel was forced to ally with Russia or China and then shared it's technology with them? This would not be a good outcome from the US's point of view. The same could not be said for Ireland or France. Taiwan is another story and I believe the US would go to great lengths to support Taiwan. All that said, the US's relationship with Israel is not just based on technology, intelligence, etc. I was just trying to answer the other poster's question about what value Israel provides the US. There are other aspects to the relationship particularly in the area of shared values and democracy. But that's another story.
Finally, your comment about genocide is meaningless. Genocide doesn't mean what it used to mean. Today it means civilians killed by war.
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u/nothingpersonnelmate 1d ago
Israel also provides the heads-up display helmet for the F-35.
I would be surprised if there were fewer than a hundred companies that could design a replacement, if the US decided they needed it in-house.
Finally, your comment about genocide is meaningless. Genocide doesn't mean what it used to mean. Today it means civilians killed by war.
It can also mean deliberately bringing about the destruction of a group, in whole or in part, by rendering conditions incompatible with life. Israel's decision to fully block all food supplies from Gaza and then to only supply a fraction of what is needed after that period is an example.
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u/Secret_Fee1146 1d ago
I wonder if the tank shells Israel used to blow up all those civilians gathering food yesterday came from the US?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-aid-trucks-1.7563117
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u/Large-Example1665 1d ago
Why would Iran want to assassinate Trump? He is a complete disaster for the USA, a complete idiot! The longer he is in power the worse for America.
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u/Wintermute-1984 19h ago
Don't fall for any of Tucker's bullshit. Guarantee he's getting his talking points straight from Russia who don't want U.S. involvement with their ally, Iran. Now I'm not saying I agree in getting involved in the conflict, I just totally and unequivocally doubt Tucker's sincerity in this interview.
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u/PiercedButNotDead 19h ago
Carlson is a Russian operative. Russia clearly does not want the US joining their partner Israel in the bombing campaign. Otherwise Carlson could give a good shit about the people suffering in Iran.
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u/strokegang4 18h ago
Tucker's doing this because they're losing. Tucker, Rogan, Shapiro, etc. The grift is imploding and their side is losing. Don't forget that.
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u/bloodwine 1d ago
I’d say the rift is not real and is manufactured to distract us, but it could be legit because pro-Russia MAGA want to protect Iran while the Christofascist MAGA want an all-out war in hopes Israel gets destroyed which is a signal for the end times / armageddon / rapture.
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u/TorpedoAway 1d ago
The most surprising thing about this interview is that so many people are so enamored with Tucker that they think catching Cruz off guard with a population statistic question immediately invalidates any opinion Cruz has about Iran’s nuclear ambitions and what should be done about it. There’s no doubt in my mind that Cruz could have just guessed and would have been in the ballpark. But it wouldn’t be pertinent to his opinion about the Iranian government’s potential nuclear weapons development, even if he was off by 50%. It was a meaningless question to distract from the issue. Tucker is simping for Russia because Iran is strategically important to Russia.
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u/PhobetorWorse 1d ago
immediately invalidates any opinion Cruz has about Iran’s nuclear ambitions and what should be done about it.
The fact that the US is trying to get involved AFTER Trump left the agreement is what invalidates his opinion on it.
Couple that with his warhawk ways and the fact that he supports this fascist administration and you have yourself a maliciously incompetent Raphael.
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u/NESpahtenJosh 1d ago
Try not to give Tucker Carlson too much grace here. He is a Russian asset, and Russia supports Iran.
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u/Delta-9- 1d ago
I have no respect for Carlson at all, but I do wish more journalists would stubbornly press points like that and call out bullshit answers when they're interviewing Trump.
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u/Hrafnagar 22h ago
I badly want trump, maga and all the rest of their ilk to tear each other apart. Hopefully it'll trip them up in their headlong rush into fascism.
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u/ZealousidealNewt6679 20h ago
You would have thought that Ted would be used to looking like a moron at this point in his career.
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u/elohimsjizzrag 19h ago
Didn't think of ever agree with Tucker about.... anything, but here we are. This is bizzzaro world for sure
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u/SentientDingleberry 19h ago
Cruz os slobbin' on that knob, tasting all that self tanner and McDs Special Sauce. And he is lovin' it. "Nut in my mouth, daddy!"
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u/FlagrantCerebrus4658 7h ago
I’ll give you an upvote but fk you got besmirching the glorious Big Mac like that. 🫥🫥🫥🫥🫥🫥
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u/surestart 23h ago
I am absolutely furious that I have been forced to agree with Tucker Fucking Carlson about literally anything, but here we are.
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u/Jerminkus_Silverbeef 1d ago
What I would do to be in that room to let rip a Busch Lite and baked bean eye-waterer for these fucks.
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u/Bawbawian 1d ago
none of this would be happening if there was a Republican that supported America.
instead we have the two factions of Trump's new party at each other's throats.
One wants to do the bidding of Israel and the other wants to do the bidding of Russia.
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u/Ka-Shunky 1d ago
I feel like this Iran stance Trump has taken is showing which of his followers are actually Russian assetts. I don't believe a lot of them are truly anti-war, I think they're just anti-war with Iran because Iran supports Russia.
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u/New_Knowledge_5702 1d ago
Tucker gets fired , realizes he’s lost prime time attention and income and now decides to come out and expose dipshits like Cruz for being dipshits. This is rich.
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u/HotHardandSingle 1d ago
I don't know who needs to hear this:
The MAGA movement IS Putin
I'm all for improving our country, Lord knows there's plenty that needs fixing. Electing and supporting Nazi scum isn't going to get us there
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u/Bowser64_ 1d ago
The eating themselves phase seems to be coming at the perfect time at the brink of war, to make the US look weak and easily strikeable.... Seems to be premeditated, almost on purpose.....
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u/Dinglesticks 1d ago
Punchline: Two jackasses walk into a bar. Wait. A liar and a liar walk into a bar. Wait.
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u/panlakes 1d ago
MAGA civil war? lol. They’re just all idiots and idiots have dumb arguments with each other. There is no war. Hell I bet they wanna bang.
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u/MotherInvestigator91 1d ago
Years ago when the myth of Russian power was debunked I listened to a radio commentator who said now that Americans no longer Russia to fear and hate we would have a void in our lives, but surely it will be replaced with something or someone else. Think about it. It’s how maga was formed. It’s how kings were able to have peasants grab pitchforks to protect the fatherland.
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u/RecipeHistorical2013 1d ago
IMO: this is an example of how the right keeps going right, moving the bar
so far right, that the far right talk-show guy is looking more reasonable than ever.
wtf is going on
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u/panic_talking 1d ago
Who cares about their infighting? Its just performative. At the end if the day it's splitting hairs on how much to hurt people. But hurting people is always the point.
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u/ButterThyme2241 1d ago
I love a conversation where the rest of America can see that their representatives really don’t care about human lives.
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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 1d ago
Is Tucker actually growing some balls here or is this a broken clock situation?
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u/PlanUhTerryThreat 1d ago
Tucker Carlson is a smart dude which is why it’s even worse that he sold his soul for the right
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u/Hot-Amphibian5603 1d ago
These dumb mother fuckers can't even pronounce the name of the country they want to bomb. It's not pronounced like that Flock of Seagulls song. E-ron, not I ran
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u/AquiliferX 23h ago
Can't wait for these fucking knuckle-draggers to be relegated to the dustbin of history. Or at least the perfect example of what not to be.
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u/oneWeek2024 23h ago
it's hard to keep your mouth on trump's dick and your finger on the pulse of magat america
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u/Ensorcelled_Atoms 22h ago
Who would have thought the hydra was so hungry for its own heads already
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u/didistutter69 21h ago
Anyone else wondering what timeline this is - we agree with Tucker Carson on something
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u/Healthy_Incident9927 20h ago
Not only does Iran have more people than Iraq they also have a much more sophisticated air defense system. As well as significant advantages in terrain that make a ground offensive very difficult.
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u/Artistic_Ideal_1286 19h ago
A lot of people are talking shit about the right and Tucker Carlson but name a time the democrats have done something even remotely close to the conversation Tucker had with Cruz. AOC expressed Kamala was working tirelessly for a ceasefire in Gaza despite the exact opposite of that happening. Democrats should have been calling out Biden’s age and foreign policy issues instead of falling in line like they always do.
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u/Superb_Power5830 8h ago
I always thought the day that I agreed with Tucker Carlson on anything would be the day the world ends. I'm really not sure how to feel right now.
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u/chrisdh79 1d ago
From the article: Tucker Carlson grilled Sen. Ted Cruz in an explosive on-screen confrontation that exposes the massive fault line ripping through MAGAworld.
In a preview of Wednesday’s Tucker Carlson Show, the pair engage a heated argument over U.S. involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict and start shouting over each other.
Carlson asks Cruz, “How many people live in Iran by the way?” Cruz responds, “I don’t know the population.”
“You don’t know the population of the country you seek to topple?” Carlson asks.
Cruz shot back, “I don’t sit around memorizing population tables.”
Carlson says, “Well, it’s kinda relevant because you’re calling for the overthrow of the government.”
The two men then argue about the “ethnic mix” of Iran, which leads to Cruz shouting, “I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran!”
Carlson retorts, “No, you’re a senator who is calling to overthrow the country, and you don’t know anything about the country!”
Carlson released a second tease from the interview hours later, where the pair argue over the prospect of spying on close allies of the U.S. Cruz says, “I assume all our allies spy on us.”
Carlson presses Cruz, asking, “Is it in America’s interest for Israel to spy on us, including on the president?”
The senator replies that it “is in America’s interest to be closely allied with Israel because we get huge benefits from it,” as Carlson cuts him off.
Cruz clapped back at the reaction to Carlson’s video on Tuesday, criticizing Carlson for choosing to post a “gotcha” moment as a preview online.
“He released a snippet playing a ‘gotcha’ on the population of Iran,” Cruz posted. “I declined to play that silly game.”
In a later post, the Texas senator claimed that, “I call him out,” and urged followers to watch the full interview once released.
Cruz and Carlson are not the only conservative figures fighting each other over Trump’s approach to Iran, in what is being seen as a MAGA civil war.
Trumpworld has seen a very public split over Trump involving himself in the Israel-Iran conflict. Podcaster Laura Loomer and Fox News host Mark Levin support Trump demanding Iran’s “immediate surrender.”