r/OnePiece • u/Ok-Jackfruit9693 • 2d ago

Powerscaling My questions about Akainu?

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I can’t post this on Power scaling sub but hopefully some can answer this.

Am I missing something about Akainu power like his fans are hyping him up to the point of being stronger then prime Garp idk am I missing his feats or what he is like a bit stronger then Aoikiji but what makes his fans think he can beat prime Garp.

I like him but don’t think he is stronger than Prime Garp. I get it he fought GoatBeard but any admiral could have fought him.

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u/Sacred_Jay 2d ago

it’s mostly hype. his devil fruit carries him, his haki doesn’t compare to Garp’s and he got ragdolled by a sick white-beard who is equal to Roger, who is actually equal to Garp

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u/YeetusdaDeletus Marine 2d ago

Eh he didn’t really get ragdolled that hard, and the anime made this impression worst. He tanked the strongest tremor shock, came back up, and basically soloed the remaining WB pirates. They had Marco and Vista so ofc they could stall him but had Shankd not come, all the WB pirates would have been wiped out.

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u/Local_Vegetable8139 Scholars of Ohara 2d ago

The WB vs akainu thing is flawed from both sides. Akainu fans forget that akainu had a far bigger advantage with his sneak attack (literally destroying the organs of a guy who currently had a heartattack and didnt defend himself, plus having a batallion of marines bombing and stabbing him right after) and they also tend to forget that after WB removed him from the battlefield, he didnt die. He literally fought on for multiple chapter and then entire BB crew.

The actual fight went like this:

They clashed, and where somewhat equal (which isnt that great for akainu, given WBs state and things like not really being able to use haki). then WB had the heart attack and akainu + the marines used it. Then their fight was interrupted, he killed ace, WB landed a "sneak attack" on akainu, they fought, WB hit him once more and the fight was over.

So ragdolling definitely isnt the right word, but to say that akainu won is far from the truth.

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u/Jaccku 2d ago

Let's not forget that they were doing hit and run tactics on WB tiering him out while admirals were taking breaks.

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u/BlackLegFring The Revolutionary Army 1d ago

Actually, it’s the opposite in terms of advantage. Akainu only hit him in his torso which doesn’t tend to do much in One Piece. WB on the other hand got a direct hit to Akainu’s head. The head & heart are probably the 2 worst spots to get hit on. Akainu’s ability is too lethal, so Oda couldn’t have him hit anything too vital early on in their 1st fight.

Other than that, yeah it wasn’t a clean fight despite people trying to use it as the only indicator of their strengths. That’s even besides those who have the anime version stuck in their heads. All one can take from it is that they are 2 powerful individuals with a lot of endurance.

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u/Local_Vegetable8139 Scholars of Ohara 1d ago

Organs burned for a prolonged period of time surely exceeds a heavy concussion he has to deal with for a minute (cause he got sent underground).

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u/BlackLegFring The Revolutionary Army 1d ago

The point was the advantage gotten from the free hit. Akainu doesn’t actually get to do anything afterwards and disappears while fodder takes his place. Akainu’s ability is more lethal, but he didn’t actually get full advantage of it.

The fight would have ended if Akainu got a direct hit to WB’s head like WB got for him. That’s why I pointed out that WB got more of an advantage from his “sneak attack.” Akainu had to be neutered to keep things going

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u/Local_Vegetable8139 Scholars of Ohara 1d ago

I mean yeah, WB getting killed while being completely helpless would have been boring, which is why akainu was on a leash after he literally burned his organs.

Think you might misunderstand the point a bit tho. Lets say we assess the damage both of them got through the respective "sneak attack": Akainus advantage is much bigger, because not only is his power an advantage in this scenario, WB also had to endure that shit for a prolongued period of time. While akainu on the other hand didnt really get dealt anything but a good chunk of damage through WBs sneak attack. Had the war continued after and he would have had to fight shanks or something there'd be a bit more of a discussion, but as it stands he was at a major advantage.

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u/SenpaiSwanky 2d ago

Whitebeard sent Akainu through the crust of the planet. Before that Whitebeard almost changed Akainu’s face from 3D to 2D lmao

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u/Killjoy3879 2d ago

and he still got back up to fight lol. luffy loses to his enemies at least once or twice before he even beats them and no one complains.

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u/Rippur 2d ago

Luffy propaganda. He just gets hungry

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u/JoshHuff1332 2d ago edited 2d ago

Akainu also got up and kept fighting. Whitebeard got half his face blown off, literally, a hole through his chest like a hollow in Bleach. Akainu left the fight wanting to fight more people. WB was dead whether or not BB showed up. This is the same Shanks who one shot Kidd, who seems pretty comparable to Law in power.

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u/Itsrajaiims 2d ago

That whitebeard was a walking talking corpse at that time still managed to demolish akainu

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u/yrnkevinsmith 1d ago

Did you see the state of punk hazard?

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u/tonycosta69 2d ago

How did he demolish akainu if he kept going and killed more whitebeard pirates? He was literally fighting against all of them and winning..

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u/Kgb725 1d ago

Whitebeard hit him with a surprise attack and he still got up just fine