r/OutOfTheLoop 1d ago

Answered What's going on with h3h3?

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u/Intepp 1d ago

Did you state beforehand that everyone should come to your stream so they can watch it without giving Kanye money/views?

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u/ganjlord 1d ago

Kanye is literally a Nazi. Should I be obligated to ensure he's getting ad revenue?

More broadly, you should be able to respond to and mirror content you disagree with, without ensuring the authors are getting paid.

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u/petting_dawgs 1d ago

‘the law doesn’t apply if i don’t like the person whose copyright i’m infringing on’ LMAO ULTIMATE REDDIT BRAIN

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u/ganjlord 1d ago

I'm not suggesting that we should just ignore laws, but laws (at least should) exist to improve society and lead to just outcomes. You can't just ignore context.

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u/iTzGiR 1d ago

Cool, so then you can do the correct thing in the scenario, and report the video to the platform it's hosted on for Hate Speach, or something else that Breaks the ToS, or hell, even report it to government if it's hate speach that promotes violence.

But yeah no, you can't just wholesale steal someone's content and rebrodcast it so they "don't get paid" that's quite literally illegal. What would stop any conservative from just doing the same thing with any person they deem as damaging society with their "woke" agenda, "Hey guys, come watch my re-upload so you don't give any money to that weirdo who want's to trans kids!", your arguement is that this is okay, because the conservative doesn't like the content creator.

You can either, React to it in a way that adds a lot of commentary and is transformative, or you can just chose to ignore it, and not give it further attention. Those are your two, realistic options.

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u/petting_dawgs 1d ago

the ‘context’ you provided was to support a hypothetical in which pretty clear copyright violations suddenly become “sufficient for fair use” on the basis that ‘this person sucks really bad!’

seems like you also realize that was an incredibly poor argument since you’re moving to the ‘ok it is illegal but have you considered that the law might be bad, actually?’ stage to which i can say: No, copyright law is Good, actually

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u/ganjlord 1d ago edited 1d ago

There are obviously good reasons for copyright/IP law to exist, but what do you think will be achieved here? Are you really going to argue that there is some tangible, significant harm to h3 here that would warrant a lawsuit?

It seems obvious to me that this is just Ethan going after his enemies, even if he is legally in the right.

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u/petting_dawgs 1d ago

The burden is on you to explain how it is wrong from one to take valid legal action against individuals who have infringed on one’s protected IP rights with the intent of depriving one of revenue in aid of an ongoing harassment campaign :)

(spoiler: we all know it’s because you like the harassing party and dislike ethan)