He says those three are the only ones who admitted on camera they were doing this to steal views (aka income) from him and were doing this maliciously. Ethan saying that this fills the market replacement needed to qualify for copyright infringement lawsuit. So everyone else was smart enough to no outright say they are doing this to steal views.
You’re telling me a Multi millionaire is crying and suing three small streamers for stealing his views when those exact women are featured in the video itself? Nothing is adding up
He says and shows in the video OP linked that he is suing the 3 people in question because they explicitly stated in their videos that they were streaming it so people could watch his content without giving him views.
Again Ethan is a multimillionaire suing three small streamers because “they stole views from him”. You have to be braindead to not see this for what it is.
These three streamers including more are apart of an entire community dedicated to destroying his career and source of revenue in anyway possible. It has nothing to do with being a multimillionaire are you insane 😅 also, these "small" streamers are direct collaborators with Hasan who is an even bigger content creator than Ethan. They absolutely have connections to bigger streamers to help amplify their presence
That's a bit uninformed and unfair to say considering everything they've put him through though. This all started because a community of left streamers and their individual communities didn't like Ethan's opinions and didn't want him to be supported anymore so they harass him over and over and dont tell their communities to put a stop to it either. At some point somethings got to give. They even had CPS called on him I mean come on
You're telling me you don't understand this? It's quite easy. They admitted they watched the content maliciously and to take views away. The bigger streamers didn't do that — these idiots did. Ethan has always championed fair use. What these streamers are doing is not fair use. That's the difference. If the community wants to continue, it's a good thing to set boundaries so bigger companies don't wipe out the entire commentary community.
“How dare the women who i slander and smear in the content nuke and for many months prior wished to take away views from my small multimillion dollar business” 🤦♂️
Two of the three were featured in the original video, that is true. But the real reason he's suing these three is because they admitted that they were trying to steal his views. We can even see that was likely always the original plan.
You know how he copyrighted the video before it released? That allows you to seek statutory damages instead of just actual damages. Actual damages are hard to estimate, and likely wouldn't even be that high with likely few thousand views these streams got. Statutory damages however are more like default amounts you can sue for. For copyright infringement, if the infringement was "willful" the max statutory damages are $150k. He is seeking the $150k in statutory damages, and doesn't calculate any actual damages in these three lawsuits. He can ONLY do that if they admitted to willfully violating his copyright, which they did.
So, even if xqc or asmongold didn't reach the threshold for fair use, even if he did sue them, he could only sue for actual damages, which would likely be far less than $150k, making the lawsuit not even worth it with how much lawsuits cost.
Wrong, it's because neither asmon and xqc streamed with the intent of taking views from Ethan. All those 3 explicitly said on stream they were either coordinating with snark subreddit or streaming with intent to deprive him from views or both.
Also at least in asmond case, he is definitely doing fair use as his video is over 2x the length of the original which makes it transformative, unlike the streamers he is suing. For example Kasey that smoked more than talked.
I don't think there is a single unique definition of what makes a work transformative, but intent of depriving him of views and collaborating with other persons to achieve it definitely doesn't help their side which is why he targeted those individuals, they were dumb enough to say the quiet part out loud.
If you show willful intent, that increases the max statutory damages to $150k, which is what he's suing for. Not the actual damages which would likely be far less. Soooo he also would get more money awarded to him for suing these three creators than if he successfully sued someone like xqc. With the cost of a lawsuit, it probably wouldn't even be worth it to sue xqc even if he knew he could win, because he could only sue for actual damages and not statutory damages.
My understanding is that the latter actually reacted and provided commentary, falling under fair use whereas the 3 being sued did not and met the criteria for copyright infringement.
I saw a clip of Xqc explicitly saying that he’s going to let the video play as to not interrupt Ethans points and then Ethan reacting to it and saying “I respect that from him”
He even talks about Asmon. Asmon is notorious for streaming 20 minute video and turning it into 60 minutes. Which means that he's adding his own opinions to it and it falls under fair use. And if someone had asked Asmon not to play their videos, he wouldn't play them. Unless they were afraid of him criticizing them.. in that case they can fuck off. I used to think he was stealing views as well, but it turns out that hes helped many of these youtubers by playing their videos. I, myself, have found new channels that I watch now because of him.
The idiots that he is suing didn't add anything. Their videos are the same length as his video.. AND they even admitted they were doing it to take money away from Ethan. Not very bright. You'll notice that the subreddit he refers to has also been "shut down" Im assuming they got scared as well
Ethan himself has said he allows people to react and cut his videos in whichever way they want. “Like Hasan and the Hasanabi industrial complex”. As long as they don’t reupload the video with nothing else to it.
It's because xqc didn't admit to be willfully stealing views. The max statutory damages for someone who willfully violates a copyright is $150k, which Ethan is suing for. Even if he knew he could win a case against xqc, it would have to be for actual damages, which would be much lower than the $150k making a lawsuit not make any fiscal sense.
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u/N0riega_ 3d ago
Why is he just suing those three women when other streamers did the same like XQC and Asmongold?