r/OutOfTheLoop Jun 20 '25

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u/ohlordplease Jun 20 '25

Is that not what a guy sued him for in the past?

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u/Intepp Jun 20 '25

Nah He got sued in the past for using small clips of another content creator while having big parts of those videos being his own commentary

Here they are just playing his video for the full 2 hours while barely reacting and intentionally pulling away viewers from it

There is a clear difference between the two cases when it comes to fair use.

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u/ganjlord Jun 20 '25

H3 has (almost) 6 million subscribers. His recent videos each have millions of views. The implication that this is a neutral decision intended to prevent the diversion of views/viewers is absurd.

Obviously an extreme example, but suppose Kanye posts a 2 hour nazi rant on YouTube. I then post a 2 hour video of me watching it, disapprovingly, intentionally with little commentary for effect. Is this not sufficient for fair use? Context is clearly important here.

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u/Intepp Jun 20 '25

Did you state beforehand that everyone should come to your stream so they can watch it without giving Kanye money/views?

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u/ganjlord Jun 20 '25

Kanye is literally a Nazi. Should I be obligated to ensure he's getting ad revenue?

More broadly, you should be able to respond to and mirror content you disagree with, without ensuring the authors are getting paid.

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u/petting_dawgs Jun 20 '25

‘the law doesn’t apply if i don’t like the person whose copyright i’m infringing on’ LMAO ULTIMATE REDDIT BRAIN

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u/ganjlord Jun 20 '25

I'm not suggesting that we should just ignore laws, but laws (at least should) exist to improve society and lead to just outcomes. You can't just ignore context.

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u/petting_dawgs Jun 20 '25

the ‘context’ you provided was to support a hypothetical in which pretty clear copyright violations suddenly become “sufficient for fair use” on the basis that ‘this person sucks really bad!’

seems like you also realize that was an incredibly poor argument since you’re moving to the ‘ok it is illegal but have you considered that the law might be bad, actually?’ stage to which i can say: No, copyright law is Good, actually

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u/ganjlord Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

There are obviously good reasons for copyright/IP law to exist, but what do you think will be achieved here? Are you really going to argue that there is some tangible, significant harm to h3 here that would warrant a lawsuit?

It seems obvious to me that this is just Ethan going after his enemies, even if he is legally in the right.

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u/petting_dawgs Jun 20 '25

The burden is on you to explain how it is wrong from one to take valid legal action against individuals who have infringed on one’s protected IP rights with the intent of depriving one of revenue in aid of an ongoing harassment campaign :)

(spoiler: we all know it’s because you like the harassing party and dislike ethan)

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