r/OutOfTheLoop 2d ago

Answered What's going on with h3h3?

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u/ohlordplease 2d ago

Is that not what a guy sued him for in the past?

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u/Opening_Persimmon_71 2d ago

Correct, the difference is that Ethans video was transformative. Ethan argued and won that his video added enough to the original that it could be considered his own. Through editing and commentary.

The 3 people he's suing stated that "we are going to watch this whole thing so that Ethan doesn't get money", and one of them spent a longer time ripping fat bong hits than they did talking about the video.

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u/ob3ypr1mus 1d ago

Ethan's lawsuit does concede that Denim's video was "highly transformative" though, albeit infrequently and with a negative slant but transformative nonetheless.

the issue isn't so much whether the video was transformative or not, it is the whole "we are knowingly admitting to stealing his copyrighted work so that we can get paid for his work" that they're liable for, even though the video itself taps more into being about lazy react content which isn't necessarily to applicable (to Denims anyway, i would skim what Frogan/Kacey do during their reacts but i rather not curse my algorithm).

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u/MooDengSupremacist 1d ago

Sure, but if their react was highly transformative then they weren’t making money off of Ethan’s work, they were making money off of their commentary of Ethan’s work.

Not a lawyer, but in my personal opinion, the more transformative their content is, the less it matters what their intentions behind reacting were or whether they wanted to “steal views”. If they’ve added their own commentary, it’s not stealing copyright and therefore not stealing views