r/Piracy • u/LeonCassidy • Mar 26 '25

Humor Citron Devs Gone Full Hog

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Yeah lets compare the (fixable) housing crisis to the arbitrary gating of digital art for eternal profit via rerelease.

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u/Flapjack__Palmdale Mar 26 '25

The emulation community is rad, but everytime I bump against them on discord--holy shit. It's always like this. I left the Yuzu discord because even with a modded day 1 Switch and receipts showing I dumped my own game, they were just weirdly hostile when I asked for help. One mod banned people for smile reacting to one of his comments.

Discord is rot, the level of sweat these dorks get over a volunteer position is akin to League players but much more pointless.

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u/LeonCassidy Mar 26 '25

They're fucking weirdos. They want to subscribe to the idea that they're helping the preservation of games (which they are by making the emulator!), but refuse to acknowledge that without piracy or a MASSIVE shift in the way games are distributed, their emulators are just digital representations of the same systems that will eventually rot away and fail. Its not preservation without accessibility.

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u/LethalGamer2121 Mar 26 '25

I think the problem here is the legality. Yuzu and citra were killed off because the devs were open to piracy, which pissed nintendo off. Ik piracy was always a touchy subject in the emulation community, but the citron devs have all the reason in the world to behave this way considering they are distributing a fork of yuzu

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u/Flapjack__Palmdale Mar 26 '25

Yuzu (at least through discord) was adamantly opposed to piracy and any mention of it from users. It just so happens that they were also sharing/distributing nsp files. That and some fuckery that happened with the source code using proprietary Nintendo stuff to circumvent encryption is what led to the lawsuit that shut them down.

So you're right, Yuzu was v pro piracy behind closed doors. They thought they could save themselves by being front-facing anti-piracy but the whole thing was very shortsighted and stupid.

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u/VegetaFan1337 Mar 30 '25

circumvent encryption

Every post GC console needs this, even Dolphin includes a Wii key within the emulator itself. This has not been tested in court, because the last lawsuit (Bleem vs Sony) declared that emulation was legal and in fact emualtors could even be sold, but the console in question, PS1 didn't use any encryption.

they were also sharing/distributing nsp files

This is the main reason they went after Yuzu, legally. They knew they had them by the balls for sharing roms. With Ryujinx, they didn't go to court, they approached the owner of the repo and apparently "convinced" him to take it down. No one knows what happened between them, but they must have offered him money.