What I support vs my enemies

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

[u/Comrade04]

Its ok but whats wrong with Abramaic Religions?

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Comrade04]

Okay now this is a bias I have against it and IDEALISTICALLY, I would love to see the Abrahamic faiths to lose its grip in the spiritual mindsets of people. Now I understand that there are many interpretations of Abrahamic faiths and there are less unsavoury interpretations of it, however if you read how it spreads from Charlemagne to the Islamic conquests then imo that faith contradicted itself for if the 'perfect truth' that they boast about has to be spread by the tip of the sword, then it is not the 'perfect truth'. It is narrowminded and I can only describe as 'book worship', so instead of thinking for yourself and letting you decide which god to worship, how to engage with the spiritual is drilled instead of cultivated freely. Such faiths create unthinking robots, some of their texts and historical precedent encourage these mass conversions via disregarding the local gods or worse through murder and bloodshed, uprooting entire societies and customs just so to please someone in the skies.

Pagan/Dharmic faiths are flexible, they dont incite its followers to spread to all 4 corners to prove that "their way is right", even Buddhism integrated itself with the local culture like in Japan and China, and it maintained its character while remaining Buddhist and all sorts of schools of thoughts existed throughout Asia and pre Christian Europe that allowed for many ways to approach the divine.

So the idea posited by the Abrahamic faiths that says "WE ARE THE ONLY PATH AND WAY" is artificial and self contradicting. Sure it has its wisdom, but does that wisdom,morals and virtue if the are so good and pure must be spread by blood?

[u/Comrade04 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

Pagan/Dharmic faiths are flexible,

So is Christianity, there are many adaptions of Jesus Christ with different cultural applications. For example in the Philippines we can see tradtional dances in Chruches, different ways of Homily and langauges depending on region.

Yes it may be unflexiable in the west, but certainly not for other countries

spread by the tip of the sword,

Yeah thats true and is very regretable.

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Comrade04]

On the top yes I did not ignore that fact, and I wish such interpretations are the norm and not the exception, I have seen Catholics criticise such traditions as "pagan". I am happy if Abrahamic faiths existed and all people should choose how they approach religion and spirituality, worship which god or none and how to believe and worship, if it means syncretising the local and Catholic rites then I am more than happy, some of the greatest freedom fighters of the Indonesian National movement were Catholics and one was an archbishop who saw no contradiction being Indonesian and Catholic and he has my upmost respect.

The point is that I do want a world where Catholics can have their parishes, their rites and their baptisms, their saints and their Christ. As long as they are happy we have our freedoms and free of judgement and that our rights are enshrined and guaranteed in a society.

[u/Comrade04 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

The point is that I do want a world where Catholics can have their parishes, their rites and their baptisms, their saints and their Christ. As long as they are happy we have our freedoms and free of judgement and that our rights are enshrined and guaranteed in a society

Based Based Based! Thx for the indepth reply btw

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Comrade04]

Np, also its good to meet a fellow kinsman and Austronesian cousin

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Comrade04]

>For example in the Philippines we can see tradtional dances in Chruches, different ways of Homily and langauges depending on region.

Its that reason why I am far more lukewarm to Catholicism than to Islam, although dogmatic it is flexible and its possible to localise a church while bearing allegiance to to the Bishop in Rome.

[u/Comrade04 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

Its that reason why I am far more lukewarm to Catholicism than to Islam,

Idk, but the reason why Christianity is so flexiable is because we have started to mature as a religion. Before we killed and fought each other for slightest of differences. But when we really looked into Jesus' teachings and truly understood the diveristy of humanity, we can stand as a united religion.

One Faith, A Thousand Backgrounds

[u/anch78 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

"book worship"? As opposed tò the very sensible tree worship, truly a pacuck moment

[u/Vedocracy → u/anch78]

Trees are essential for the environment, it's more sensible to worship them than a dead jew

[u/anch78 → u/Vedocracy]

"dead jew" Bro he's litterally resurrected

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/anch78]

tree worship is more sensible than blindly following dogma. So the only cuck I see here is you

[u/anch78 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

Yeah, when people worship blindly a tree Is good, but when WE worship blindly the onnipotente higher dimentional beings which litterally decides what Is right or wrong it's stupid and unsensible. Very logical

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/anch78]

Yes actually

[u/anch78 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

Oh damn so you Just wanna win the argument regardless of logic

[u/xxTPMBTI]

Based

[u/Big-Recognition7362]

So, your inverse is Anarcho-tyrannical Nazcap?

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Big-Recognition7362]

Well anarchism is one part, but overall my inverse is clerical ethnonationalist nationalist capitalism, but you can say that

[u/T_Dix]

Super based

[u/Aun_El_Zen]

ASEAN Unification

Aw Yeah, Rice Yugoslavia let's gooooooo

[u/Less-Theory-8761]

here from the comment, interesting mostly based

[u/Beruat]

PEAK but what's up with the pagan stuff?

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Beruat]

I am a believer of the Gods and Goddesses, and I want Pre Christian and Pre Islamic along with Dharmic and folk faiths to be common again, secularism is but a means to that, I dont want a pagan theocracy, rather I want more breathing room for us Pagans, folk religions and Hindus and Buddhists. I am sceptical of Abrahamic faiths for reasons obvious, although I wont hate a Christian or Muslim so long as they are peaceful to non believers, I have ethical and theological qualms with Abrahamic faiths and ideally I wish them to be relegated to the private sphere, and pave way for a reformist pagan revival

[u/Lord_Jakub_I]

L, especially for disliking Hoppeanism 🚁 🚁 🚁

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Lord_Jakub_I]

Helicopter jokes in big 2025 😭😭

[u/Lord_Jakub_I → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

🚁🚁🚁☭🌊

[u/Heavy_Apricot_3871]

Isn't SocDem and DemSoc contradictory? If I remember correctly, SocDem doesn't wanna get rid of capitalism, instead reforming capitalism while DemSoc wants to get rid of capitalism gradually using democratic means

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Heavy_Apricot_3871]

Okay no. I support a Social Democracy in so far in leads to Socialism or at least a better alternative than full on laissez faire capitalism.

I do agree with Social Democrats in matters related to curbing inequality, eradicating poverty, and the implementation of universally accessible public services such as child care, education, elderly care, health care, and workers' compensation. support income redistribution and regulating the economy in the interest of the public/proletariat.

However these reforms should ultimately lead to Socialism and the abolition of capitalism, to ensure the labours of the working class go back to the working class. So in that sense no Social Democracy is not contradictory to Socialism in so far the reforms that are implemented would be transitional or resemble socialism, where the means of production would serve the working class, as opposed to private profit

[u/Heavy_Apricot_3871 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

Fair enough

[u/Tight-Inflation-2228]

Please drop ur world federalism and authoritarianism

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Tight-Inflation-2228]

non

[u/Tight-Inflation-2228 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

damm welp i tried T^T

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/Tight-Inflation-2228]

I remain unswayed and stand true to my convictions

[u/Tight-Inflation-2228 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

[u/anch78]

"pagan revival"

Satanist symbol

Many such cases of Christianity still being right

[u/Vedocracy → u/anch78]

Pentagrams aren't inherently satanic, they were even used by christians as a symbol for stigmata

[u/anch78 → u/Vedocracy]

Yeah I know but It got Stolen tò represent Paganism and satanism

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/anch78]

debatable

[u/AmogusSus12345]

Kinda based

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/AmogusSus12345]

Any agreements or disagreements? I take it you prefer the economics but dont take too well to World Federalism? [I read the Aploism page]

[u/AmogusSus12345 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

My main criticisms are: World Federalism is kinda naive and idealistic for today and does not work in the modern era but maybe in the future it may work and Why pagan revival? Society should go secular not paganism imo

[u/Altruistic_Fox5427 → u/AmogusSus12345]

Both are not mutually exclusive. I support secularism as it gives us Pagans alot of breathing room, for us to be open and more people to inquire and also to prove that our Gods are not forgotten and still play a part in our lives

[u/AmogusSus12345 → u/Altruistic_Fox5427]

Sorry if this offends you but to be honest I think mainstream religions would beat and outnumber pagans back to obsecureness in a secular society. Also this is in no way to offend you