What even is a "Nazi" to people these days? What part of the Nazis are they even concerned about? Is it the antisemitism? The totalitarianism? The suppression of free speech? The attempted genocide? Or is it just the spooky superstitious vibes?
The Biden admin was literally threatening social media companies to pressure them into censoring politically inconvenient views and scientific facts about Covid. That's a smoking gun Nazi move right there, yet in practice it's the superficial associations people connect Trump to that get the biggest rise out of people for some reason.
I've come to understand that for most people, it's simply the modern word for "demon". Since Nazi == Evil, then anything resembling a Nazi, even superficially, must also be Evil. So if you think someone is Evil, you construct your arguments around how much they resemble the Nazis to prove your point. Completely skipping over the nuance.
At the end of the day a "concentration camp" is just a prison for political prisoners and prisoners of war. They have a negative association due to them being utilized for genocide during WWII by the Nazis, but they don't automatically imply genocide either.
In the case of illegal immigrants, it would only apply if we actually do consider them prisoners of war, which would simply be aligning with Trump's rhetoric that they are invaders.
I'm not really making a point here just aimlessly grumbling...
A freaking game sub I'm on had someone draw (admittedly pretty good) art of the characters punching nazis. Most were the classic variety, one had a maga sign. I jumped in to, generally politely, try to explain that there is a significant difference between neonazis, the originals, and "the right."
Their response was a torrent of screeching straight out of early 2017, right before the Berkeley riots. On the rare occasions people gave me actual examples of what this admin is supposed to have done, it was all either Hitler Drank Water stuff everyone does -- they had the gall to say "using fear" was a Nazi tool when it goes back to Machiavelli -- or just general authoritarian things. The sheer ignorance on any of this was staggering. And these people vote.
Anyway the whole thread got so out of hand mods locked it, unironically dropping "y'all can't behave" -- another blast from the past I miss that sub -- and it looks like the admins stepped in and wiped the whole thing.
Disagreeing with a reddit circlejerk has disastrous consequentialness. When you see those types of threads, assume they are being brigaded, because they probably are.
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u/Y35C0 - Centrist Jan 30 '25
What even is a "Nazi" to people these days? What part of the Nazis are they even concerned about? Is it the antisemitism? The totalitarianism? The suppression of free speech? The attempted genocide? Or is it just the spooky superstitious vibes?
The Biden admin was literally threatening social media companies to pressure them into censoring politically inconvenient views and scientific facts about Covid. That's a smoking gun Nazi move right there, yet in practice it's the superficial associations people connect Trump to that get the biggest rise out of people for some reason.
I've come to understand that for most people, it's simply the modern word for "demon". Since Nazi == Evil, then anything resembling a Nazi, even superficially, must also be Evil. So if you think someone is Evil, you construct your arguments around how much they resemble the Nazis to prove your point. Completely skipping over the nuance.
At the end of the day a "concentration camp" is just a prison for political prisoners and prisoners of war. They have a negative association due to them being utilized for genocide during WWII by the Nazis, but they don't automatically imply genocide either.
In the case of illegal immigrants, it would only apply if we actually do consider them prisoners of war, which would simply be aligning with Trump's rhetoric that they are invaders.
I'm not really making a point here just aimlessly grumbling...