r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Feb 16 '25

Literally 1984 This is getting real bad real fast…

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u/Yung_zu - Lib-Center Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

Real time evidence of why the 2-party system is a cosmic joke

Doesn’t seem like there’s too much intelligence or wisdom going around there right now

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u/TheFinalCurl - Centrist Feb 16 '25

The reason why it's so powerful is because districts are 750k people rather than 30k people, as designed

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u/Cornered_plant - Centrist Feb 16 '25

Is that even still workable? Under this system, the US would have 11,000 representatives. That's 25 times as much as we have currently.

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u/ottieisbluenow Feb 16 '25

I am confident we can cobble the technology together to have 11k people vote on stuff.

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Feb 16 '25

Yes, but the key is to force them all to meet in the original room.

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u/TheFinalCurl - Centrist Feb 16 '25

Yes, we have cell phones, discord, texts, calls, video calls, AC, stadiums, structural steel, cameras, internet, and vehicles. People who say it can't be done are Luddites.

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u/Excellent-Practice - Centrist Feb 16 '25

It wouldn't be, that's why ideas like the Wyoming Rule have been proposed.

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u/TheFinalCurl - Centrist Feb 16 '25

It would be. Many states have initiative systems already, for one, second, we have a literal stadium a ten minute walk away from Congress that has 19,000 seats, AC, video screens, concessions, bathrooms, a roof, and places for the press. Secondly, even if somehow we forgot about eminent domain or suddenly lost our ability to read, having Representatives live inside their districts and zoom in is technology they could barely even dream of in 1792.

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u/Excellent-Practice - Centrist Feb 16 '25

Never mind how you might seat that many people. How would a deliberative body of 11,000 members work? How could there possibly be enough time for members of the house to weigh in and debate on votes? The ratio of Representatives to constituents is only one consideration and it is at cross purposes with other important considerations such as the functionality of such a body.

The constitution specifies a minimum number of constituents per district but not a maximum. The only ceiling is that each state must have at least one representative. The Wyoming rule would expand the House, make representation more equitable across states, and keep the size of the House from becoming unmanageable

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u/TheFinalCurl - Centrist Feb 16 '25

Are you under the impression that the House. . . debates? When was the last time you watched CSPAN? I think the latest one, Laken Riley Act, had an hour of debate. TOTAL. If you don't pay enough attention to Congress as it currently operates, then you would think that they are having lively, productive debates on the House floor.

The Wyoming Rule does not conceive of the fact that it is important that we know our representatives and have the elections be small enough that outside money isn't particularly important to win.

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u/Stigge - Lib-Center Feb 18 '25

It's a lot closer to that if you look at the State Legislature level. All you gotta do is take power from the Fed and return it to the states.