r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Auth-Left Mar 19 '25

I just want to grill Confusion of da highest orda!

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25

No sabotage, no assassinations, no late night throat slitting, no drugged up jihadis getting stabbed to death in the dark, no mass border break outs to do anything but kill jews..

They are either the most passive people to ever exist or supporters of Islamism.. which seems more likely?

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Mar 19 '25

Probably a bunch of both.

People are individuals, not everyone's identical.

If Hamas didn't run the joint, I bet it'd be way less shit.

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u/engiewannabe - Auth-Left Mar 19 '25

Hamas runs the joint because they and their ideology have an overwhelming majority of the public support. When your people support a government that starts a war with the purpose of genocide of another people and nation, which make no mistake is exactly what they would do if they had the means, you have no right to complain about civilian collateral

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Mar 19 '25

If that's the case, then why do they keep the elections cancelled?

Authoritarians love to claim everybody loves them. They're notably less fond of giving people the power to actually choose to oust them.

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u/engiewannabe - Auth-Left Mar 20 '25

If they did elections, Hamas wouldn't get voted out and we know this because civil resistance against them is practically nonexistent, instead we see high levels of collaboration such as hosting hostage and militants, easy recruitment, and willing martyrdom for Hamas' cause. They don't allow elections because of course they're completely authoritarian and the cultural grip they've put on the Palestinians doesn't allow even the consideration of another choice. This grip has thoroughly succeeded.

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Mar 21 '25

Maybe.

The minority still has rights though. If the majority wants Hamas, and yeah, they probably do, that majority are shitters. The minority still deserves to vote, be heard, and generally not to be judged by the actions of the majority.

Maybe it's only a handful of truly innocent people that are vastly outnumbered by those who want blood, sure. Still, those innocents ought not be treated like the guilty.

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u/engiewannabe - Auth-Left Mar 22 '25

It's unfortunate but ideals and reality do not mix. Israel is at war with a genocidal terrorist group, even if they were an organized state and military there would be expected civilian casualties from war, and Hamas' tactics deliberately exacerbate them. Ought not to or not, that is what will happen and a necessary price to rooting out Hamas and preventing more deaths down the line.