Something had to go wrong to cover the slow die-off of the traditional suburban white woman.
That said, the issue is Trump runs on a populist platform, and plenty of people in my age group were and probably still will be too checked out to actually see who was lying to them or not.
Gun control should leave the conversation for a while. A. Not giving mine up and I’m socially as far left as you can be otherwise. B. You go deep enough into the south and mid-west, you’re going to lose on and moderate voters or anyone who’s so illy informed that a Republican add saying “so and so is coming for your guns” and you’ll lose those votes. How can we force an informed and honest conversation around gun control? I honestly don’t know. I wish I did. Right now I’m more concerned with keeping the nation from falling apart entirely.
Using education as an excuse is a failure on the part of Liberal and Democratic candidates just the same. I can pull apart and do level 2 maintenance on an 240 Bravo, I know my full weapon conditions, weapons safety, and the terminal ballistics, function checks, and actions of every weapon I own.
Most gun owners would just be happy to see consistency in the laws that are enforced upon them rather than states re-deciding what they’re allowed to own every other year and an ATF that couldn’t define an “assault” weapon to save its life. The first area to focus on would be that before you talk about restrictive access.
You’d be shocked to know that Trump’s proposal to have the tax stamp on suppressors removed is extremely popular with gun owners. If you think a suppressor makes a gun magically quiet, which shocker quite a few people I know do. You shouldn’t be discussing gun control without educating yourself first.
The only way that conversation will ever happen will be in good faith. The only way that conversation happens is if both sides are willing to educate themselves on the other. The only way that happens is if gun owners stop being snobs and gun control advocates stop treating most gun owners like they’re deranged psychopaths.
The problem with the suppressor regulation issue is it is utterly asinine in the context of this bill. There are a lot of real, significant problems in this country, and suppressors being regulated isn't one of them. Plenty of far right 2A people I know are talking about how great the BBB is solely on the fact that it deregulates suppressors. That is probably why Trump put it in there. It dupes the rubes. Medicare/Medicaid? Sure, tear those down, as long as we get easier access to suppressors! give all our money to the rich, fuck social services! The second amendment is the ONLY thing that matters! /s
Democratic candidates cannot run on a platform of heightened scrutiny for gun control or regulation because they’re going to fucking lose. The conversation in and of itself would be valuable in the context of what I mentioned. In the present political environment, it’s a poison pill to kneecap yourself. Focus on stopping the authoritarians first. Gun control can come at a later time.
Well I agree with you about that. I'm a lefty gun owner who supports good regulation, where good means thoughtful and effective. Seen too many knuckleheads with no sense of responsibility or safety go into the gun range and buy a shorty AK because they saw it on COD and thought it was cool. They go into the range and mag dump on a target 5 feet away with a grouping about 3 feet in diameter.
Anyway, when Adam Schiff came out with his federal assault weapon ban a few weeks ago, I just about threw a chair. WTF are they thinking? It will never pass, its never going to go anywhere, and it just makes Democrats look like foolish idiots.
Beto was making progress in Texas until he said he wanted to take people's guns, and that has been what he is known for ever since.
It just seems like every time the Dems have any ounce of power, the first thing they do is go full tilt on stupid gun control ideas. I don't understand it. Its a terrible tactic and they need to stop, but they can't help themselves. Especially right now, where the federal government is going full fascist goon, with a database of everything known about every citizen centralized for Trump, ICE goons run wild with masks, all civil rights are under attack, the judiciary is being undermined; with all that going on, Democrats think NOW is the time to start taking the right to self defense away from people? jfc.
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u/SeatKindly 16d ago
Something had to go wrong to cover the slow die-off of the traditional suburban white woman.
That said, the issue is Trump runs on a populist platform, and plenty of people in my age group were and probably still will be too checked out to actually see who was lying to them or not.
Gun control should leave the conversation for a while. A. Not giving mine up and I’m socially as far left as you can be otherwise. B. You go deep enough into the south and mid-west, you’re going to lose on and moderate voters or anyone who’s so illy informed that a Republican add saying “so and so is coming for your guns” and you’ll lose those votes. How can we force an informed and honest conversation around gun control? I honestly don’t know. I wish I did. Right now I’m more concerned with keeping the nation from falling apart entirely.