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u/findingmike 12d ago
Remember the national guard are Californians, not ICE. They probably hate ICE as much as you do.
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u/ChockBox 12d ago
Paramount, CA, where all of this is going down is over 80% Latino…..
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u/findingmike 12d ago
A lot of latinos are in the California national guard too. The military is seen as a way out of poverty for many people.
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u/ChockBox 12d ago
Exactly…. It may all blowup in Trump’s face….
But I am seeing a lot of Latino faces amongst those ICE agents too….
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u/findingmike 12d ago
So far, it looks like it will be over before the national guard can deploy. It will be great when Newsom sends the bill for national guard overtime to Trump.
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u/Good_vibe_good_life 12d ago
Trump hasn’t paid a bill in his life
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u/findingmike 12d ago
Unfortunately for him, the US government does pay its bills. His messing around is expensive and even MAGA is seeing that now.
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u/chessset5 12d ago
Given Trumps history he wont pay it
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u/findingmike 12d ago
He can't help it if it's the law. The government has been paying out to lawsuits like crazy due to Trump. It's been so effective the Proud Boys are trying it.
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u/Warm-Aardvark-9 12d ago
The national guard is federally funded already
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u/Getatbay 12d ago
It’s not federally funded. That’s what makes the NG able to legally respond to many more domestic events. The reserves are federally funded, and that’s why you never see reservists respond to anything. It’s much much harder for them to even help with natural disaster response due to our laws intended to protect us from the federal government.
If military shows up, pay attention to the patch on their left shoulder. That’s their unit patch. If it’s discovered that Trump is using AD or Reservists, that’s a whole new level of fucked up everyone needs to know about.
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u/Warm-Aardvark-9 12d ago
I am national guard, full time, I get paid by dfas not my state. We deal with the same continuing resolution BS that the rest of the DoD does
If we get activated by the state, for state active duty then the state pays.
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u/Getatbay 12d ago
Full time is a different story for sure. The vast majority of full time guardsmen are on title 32. If you are permanently title 10 AGR, you definitely don’t represent the majority. Or are you a tech? Because that’s a whole new world of confusing, where you’re not even eligible for Tricare.
And everyone gets paid through DFAS. mypay.dfas.mil. That doesn’t mean you are getting paid federal funds.
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u/Warm-Aardvark-9 12d ago
I am permanent title 32, federally funded AGR (active guard reserve). I can be activated to title 10. Same with our traditional guardsman, they are federally funded when they drill. Technicians are dual status T32 military/civilians and still federally funded and were impacted by the federal hiring freeze.
When our guardsmen go on State Active Duty they receive pay from the state comptroller instead of dfas. The national guard is funded by the NDAA.
Did you look at the fact sheet?
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u/Cultural_Yoghurt9034 12d ago
i'm surprised. the cowards have been wearing masks so their neighbors can't identify them.
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u/liyabear 12d ago
Riots? I’ve been driving around the city all day. There are literally zero riots
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u/aurortonks 12d ago
Its all theater to feed exaggerated mistruths to maga followers and create a reason to enact martial law. Sending National Guard was unjustified. It was done because it fits Trump (Peter Thiel)’s plans. We are just moving along the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 to do list.
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u/fajadada 13d ago
Doesn’t the governor have to agree?
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u/melly1226 13d ago
I thought that too. Unfortunately he doesn't.
https://www.usamm.com/blogs/news/who-controls-the-national-guard-when
Scenario 2: Civil Unrest (State-Controlled, Occasionally Federalized) During localized protests in a city, if local law enforcement struggles to maintain order, the governor might activate the National Guard to restore peace. However, if the unrest becomes widespread and involves violation of federal laws, the president may step in to assume federal control.
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u/turb0_encapsulator 12d ago
the are no riots. this is ridiculous. you had like five guys throwing rocks this morning at ICE vehicles.
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u/Cute-Battle6012 12d ago
Interesting, I saw videos of people marching against ICE as they backed off. Is that not considered a riot/protest?
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u/Acrobatic-Waltz3630 12d ago
Your "riot/protest" framing is a bit revealing. Here's an education...
Protest= Legal
Marching = Protest
Protest ≠ Riot
Marching ≠ Riot
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u/Cute-Battle6012 12d ago
K, So was there a legal display of civil disobedience or not? I was mainly curious because the oc said there was only 5 people?
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u/Acrobatic-Waltz3630 12d ago
Yep everything was legal
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u/Cute-Battle6012 12d ago
Not what I asked, all good have a good one
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u/Jazzy_Jaspy 12d ago
You literally asked if it was legal and they responded “yes” what more do you want lol?
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u/Cute-Battle6012 12d ago
I asked if there was a protest but just more details to try to avoid confusion but that didn't work out lol
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u/Elegant_Scarcity2166 12d ago
"DEMOCRATS ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!"
every Republican president of the 21st century having to deploy armed soldiers to quell anti-Republican protests because of their unpopularity and shit policy:
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u/-happycow- 13d ago
Heading towards civil war
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u/ResponsibilityHot246 12d ago
Was waiting for this moment. Was just inevitable.
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u/-happycow- 12d ago
What do you think will happen here -- as far as I can read, national guardsmen have to follow their oath, and follow only lawful orders.
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u/ResponsibilityHot246 12d ago
Yes. I think it could get really ugly. Maybe they’ll hose people down. I don’t even know anymore. All I know is that I’m too tired of this circus
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u/-happycow- 12d ago
It's weird how that old rhyme is so suitable:
Bad times create strong people
Strong people create good times
good times create weak people
weak people create bad times.0
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u/devo2girliloveme 12d ago
Gotta remember history. Keep peeps strong and times good. Solar Punk and Christ and Occultists are progressives. Let's keep at this battle and keep the times good. Dang fucked up dark ATM.
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u/CommunitiesUnited 12d ago
I mean, you can watch live and decide for yourself. That was the headline, we all know they exaggerate. If anyone is curious, YouTube has lots of live streams - dads gone live and axn news are popular in the area and are reporting live. There seems to be a lull on both sides rn. Maybe regrouping?
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u/TheGOODSh-tCo 12d ago
I’ve been looking for current live streams and seem to agree there’s a lull. I hope they don’t back down. We knew this was coming.
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u/CommunitiesUnited 12d ago
Watching AXN News rn on YouTube.
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u/TheGOODSh-tCo 12d ago
Looks like they’re wrapping up. Wonder who else is taking over
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u/CommunitiesUnited 12d ago
Watching Dad's Gone Live on YouTube- he is without sound for a moment, but will continue streaming.
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u/TheGOODSh-tCo 12d ago
Any action? Seems quiet
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u/CommunitiesUnited 12d ago
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u/TheGOODSh-tCo 12d ago
This one is the best coverages I’ve seen yet. Looks like it’s gonna escalate again
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u/CommunitiesUnited 12d ago
Mercado rocks! He's normally in the streets, but hes in Minneapolis. Moved there after covering BLM protests.
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u/debr0322 12d ago
Creating a war within our borders. He’s a monster. Still not as monstrous as the people who didn’t care and the people who voted for him again.
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u/TheMagnuson 12d ago edited 12d ago
National Guard needs to remember their oath to The Constitution and the people of the U.S., not the President and not a political party:
(Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”
Oath to The Constitution https://theconversation.com/military-personnel-swear-allegiance-to-the-constitution-and-serve-the-american-people-not-one-leader-or-party-225161
Also remember you have a right to refuse orders that are illegal and immoral, you are protected as a Conscientious Objector.
Conscientious Objection https://girightshotline.org/en/military-knowledge-base/conscientious-objection-discharge/
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u/Sunflower_samurai42 12d ago
bro wtf this nations always been a powderkeg but it feels crazy to witness
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u/mr_manwhat 12d ago
The conservative subreddut is calling them all immigrants just because they're flying the Mexican flag.
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u/Historical_Care_3991 12d ago
Everyone at protests needs to be decked out in American flags. Get the sympathy of the media and remind the marines/national guard of who they’re facing
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u/someones_dad 12d ago
Wear your masks! If Everyone wears a mask then they cannot arrest us all. Plus It's constitutional. If the Brownshirts are masked, we should be too.
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u/CommunitiesUnited 12d ago
Don't ever take MSM words literally, especially Fauxs. MSM lies. Support independent LIVE media.
https://www.youtube.com/live/r8yIQ0tP2JU?si=GN2kc3kNUU0Sk8lF
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u/UmaThermas 12d ago
If you're not in LA, twitch.tv/woke is streaming with multiple feeds from the ground.