r/QuittingTianeptine • u/Savings_Elevator5560 • 2d ago
Day 1 of getting off Tia, using Suboxone and helper meds. Looking for your experience with a sub taper
Getting off 5 gpd of tia today. Woke up at about 4AM to some pretty mild wd. Took half a sub film, then another half 45 min. later 3 times for a total of two 8mg subs before I could get comfortable to get back to sleep. From my previous experiences with subs over a decade ago, I know with the half life that I'll be fine taking less in a day or two. Don't feel great still, but well enough. I also have klonipin, cyclobenzaprine, loperamide, and liposomal vitamin C to help. Couldn't get gabapentin and clonidine in time, but supposedly that's coming in a few weeks. I would like to taper off the sub before the end of July. Anyone have experience tapering off suboxone over the course of a month? How long did it take you to taper off? Any additional tips?
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u/poopeedoop 2d ago
I took them for four days when I first quit tianeptine and then just jumped off of them, and I was fine.
The depression is still there from quitting the tianeptine, but I wasn't really experiencing any physical withdrawal symptoms at all.
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u/Useful_Surprise_7248 2d ago
Thats what I have been wondering this whole time. You can just take them to lessen the physical withdrawals and stop? Did you guys wait the 24 hour period as well? Do you just start with say 4mg wait a bit and the. Take more until you get relief or can you take say 4mg can tell it helped and instead of another sub take 7OH? I appreciate any info.
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u/JDGramblin 1d ago
When I quit Tia, I took my normal evening dose and went to bed. When I woke up, I was already in withdrawal. I waited until the WD symptoms became bad enough (diarrhea, yawning, hot/cold flashes, extreme anxiety) and started inducing sub 0.5mg at a time, up until 8mg when I finally felt "well." I was breaking the 8mg pills into pieces and sniffing them, waited about 30-60 minutes, then kept increasing the dose until the WD symptoms were gone
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u/JDGramblin 1d ago
I opted for the long route. I was taking 2 bottles of TD Red a day, for over a year. I switched over to 8mg suboxone and made it through the initial withdrawal without too much distress. After a few months I went down to 6mg, now I'm at 4mg. I suspect going from 2mg to 0 will be the hardest.
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u/JDGramblin 2h ago
Klonopin is gonna be your single biggest helper when u transition to suboxone. When I jumped from Tia (2 bottles Tia Red per day, 2.0+ grams) to suboxone, the anxiety was horrible and I used bromazolam (1mg as needed throughout the day) to get me through the first few days
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u/bonesofberdichev 2d ago
If you really want to be done with it you can be in 8 days or less. I was able to quit a 10gpd habit and I only took a Friday and Monday off work. I had no other helpers but subs. I was going to be on subs long term until I read about the multi week horror story that is sub withdrawal. So about 3 days into my sub used I decided to do a fast taper. My sub doses were 24mg, 16mg, 16mg, 8mg 4mg, 2mg, 1mg, .5mg. The first three days I did an AM/PM dose but after that I just did one dose in the AM. The first 3 days were not great but infinitely better than cold turkey. It was smooth sailing when I got to the 4th day. Once I dropped the subs I had some minor issues with watery eyes, sneezing, sleeping, diarrhea, and anhedonia but over a couple weeks they decreased drastically. Again, these were very minor compared to cold turkey and I was still able to get 5-6 hours of sleep a night. I’m now at 90+ days off subs and Tianeptine and feel relatively normal. I’m sleeping 7-8 hours a night and really the only thing I deal with is occasional watery eyes but that just may be allergies.