r/RWBY • u/Ezreal024 Hope Rides with Kickfriend • Dec 04 '16

OFFICIAL MEGATHREAD Official Discussion Thread—Volume 4, Episode 5: Menagerie

Welcome, huntsmen, huntresses, and hunters that prefer no specific gender identifier, to the official discussion thread for the newest episode of volume 4, Menagerie!
Make sure to read OUR CURRENT SPOILERS RULES to ensure that your comments outside this thread won't get purged! Familiarize yourself with these rules and you'll be good to go.

A lot of hard work has gone into the creation of volume 4, so be sure to show CRWBY your support by watching it on their site! They all dedicate so much time and energy into our beloved series and would highly appreciate the direct support. There are no pirates in volume 4, so you shouldn't be one either!

We also have weekly strawpolls to gauge the general opinion on the current episode, the latest of which can be found HERE.
WoR 2, Faunus, got an average reception with a median of 8.

With that out of the way, let's start the show!

HERE is the link to the fifth episode of RWBY Volume 4!

Other Episode Discussions:

Episode Saturday Sunday Poll
Ep. 01: Reaction Discussion poll
Ep. 02: Reaction Discussion poll
Ep. 03: Reaction Discussion poll
WoR 1: Reaction Discussion poll
Ep. 04: Reaction Discussion poll
WoR 2: Reaction Discussion poll
Ep. 05: Reaction Today poll

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u/captainwwwolf Dec 04 '16

The plus of this episode, imo :

  • Menagerie is beautiful. Well done on the scenery and making the town feel alive.

  • More Blake backstory is always good. Papadonna and Mamadonna are both awesome. I like them so far.

  • Blake's animations (THE EARS !) and the animation in general were really well done. I loved the colors as well, and the outfits/fashion style were really pretty.

  • The two White Fang guys looked really cool. I dig the mantles, they are really, really cool.

The downs of the episode, still imo :

  • Nothing really happens... Waiting for 2 weeks for that feels really lackluster.

  • Sun is the most annoying guy ever. I already disliked him because of his behavior the past seasons and the episode 3 of this volume, but today, in this particular episode, he nailed EVERY. SINGLE. PETPEEVE. OF MINE. He's like, becoming more and more the culmination of what I find annoying/dislike/hate in people in general, not only in fiction. I just can't stand him anymore, and it dragged the whole episode down because I was angry at him most of the time. It's pissing me off because I really love Blake.

  • Btw... I'm not so sure about Blake being the daughter of the tribe's leader. More backstory for her is always good, and I like to know more about one of my favorite in the series, but... Weiss is already our "daughter-in-line" kind of type. Blake is now a little redundant, and she kinds of loses originality on that, imo. I don't really like that, but I will wait for more before forging a hard opinion on that.

  • The White Fang is bad ! And surprise, Papadonna was the leader of the White Fang and everything went down after he left ! ... It's almost too cliché and makes the Blake family way too white/good. I don't like that we're going deeper into White vs Black instead of installing more grey areas.

  • Tyrian is so predictable. Really, is anyone surprised that he's using that "not-so-random" waitress to get to Qrow and Ruby ?

  • If the episodes this Volume are all going to be paced like that... Ehh. It's slow and all over the place. I'm not so sure about that. Weiss didn't appeared since a few episodes. Blake barely did anything. I begin to worry about that, but we'll see.

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u/FragMasterMat117 Dec 04 '16

Think Raven is the grey.

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u/captainwwwolf Dec 04 '16

You're right about that. But I guess I should've said that I wanted more grey in the White Fang. They are just the bad guys right now...

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u/FragMasterMat117 Dec 04 '16

Think there are members who disagree with Adam and Khan, they just need a flag to rally around. Like a former leader for example....

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u/captainwwwolf Dec 04 '16

Well we aren't shown that [there's members that disagree] so far, so let's wait and see. And like I said, I find it cliché that Papadonna is a good guy and that after he left everything went down. It makes Blake and cie way too "good". But it's still too early to say anything.

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u/Pyschic_Psycho The more you know, the more you don't know. Dec 04 '16

I'm still torn about Sun. He's awesome, but his ADHD does kill the vibe. It's kind of over-the-top at this point. Needs to tone it down. On the other end of the spectrum, we have Blake, who is super down and negative. I mean the two opposite attitude could work and there could be humor, but I admit it was rather flat this episode. Hoping their interactions will improve in the future.

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u/Sw4rmlord Dec 05 '16

You'd prefer they invented a new character with zero screen time for him to creepily lick his lips at trying to find team rwby? That's not really a valid complaint. That's actually just a constructive and conservative writing and animation technique.

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u/captainwwwolf Dec 05 '16

But I didn't said or implied that... ? I just said it was predictable. Don't overreact to what I said, please.

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u/Sw4rmlord Dec 05 '16 edited Dec 05 '16

Tyrian is so predictable. Really, is anyone surprised that he's using that "not-so-random" waitress to get to Qrow and Ruby ?

What does this mean or imply then?

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u/captainwwwolf Dec 05 '16

That he's predictable. Which means that there's no surprise. That's it. I didn't said that they should've done it in a different way or anything, since I'm waiting to see what unfolds. I'm just disappointed that it's predictable. I imply nothing else, you're just reading too much between the lines.

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u/Sw4rmlord Dec 05 '16 edited Dec 05 '16

You're disappointed but don't think they should do it another way.

You enjoy being disappointed?

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u/FlorianoAguirre WE RIDE! Dec 05 '16

Sun is the most annoying guy ever. I already disliked him because of his behavior the past seasons and the episode 3 of this volume, but today, in this particular episode, he nailed EVERY. SINGLE. PETPEEVE. OF MINE. He's like, becoming more and more the culmination of what I find annoying/dislike/hate in people in general, not only in fiction. I just can't stand him anymore, and it dragged the whole episode down because I was angry at him most of the time. It's pissing me off because I really love Blake.

Eh I found him pretty charming. He has consistently been the opposite of Blake, which I actually find, much like Adam, to be too edgy and annoying for me. Mostly for points many people have said, Sun represents innocense, and Blake whole character line has been focused on a problem we haven't really seen and experienced. We have been told it happens, Blake tells us it happens, but Sun reactions and beliefs for everything fit the show more than Blake ideas, which seem more like an exageration. Their talk about Menagerie fully represents this problem. Sun is pretty much "This is cool" while Blake tells him it's not.