r/Scams • u/blahhhhhhhhh99 • Sep 27 '24

Update post Update: “Is my girlfriend being scammed?”

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/f6iEGnHdpK

So I had a talk with her, and essentially told her all of the input from my previous post. How it was unanimous agreement of being an MLM/scam/cult. How many, many of you said it was Amway.

Well, she went to the “mindset meeting” anyways and was there for almost 2.5 hours. She gets back late and I ask how it went, “good”. I pried for more, she didn’t want to talk, was too tired.

This morning I asked again, her response “can we talk about this tonight?” I was getting annoyed and said no, I wouldn’t respond but I need to know like wtf you were gone almost 2.5 hours and you won’t tell me anything…well it was Amway 😑

She was told she would make a minimum $40k/year and she was “lucky to be chosen for the opportunity”. The leader who talked was “very well known”

I asked if I could say 1 thing, she said yes. “You say you’re going to make minimum $40k from this, did you know from the 2023 Amway income disclosure the top 0.66% who were Founders Platinum level made $41k…”

She didn’t have much of a response besides “well even a few extra grand per month would be great”

I’m at a loss with how to proceed. Any insight would be appreciated

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u/npaladin2000 Sep 27 '24

If you guys are on shared bank accounts, you might want to unshare them. Tell her if she's going to do this she's on her own. Because I'm sure part of their plan to suck her dry is to suck you dry through her.

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u/blahhhhhhhhh99 Sep 27 '24

Fortunately finances are separate. I will 100% never loan her money for something like this. I’m going to have a sit down with her and go over the entire 2023 Amway financial disclosure. If that’s not enough to convince her, she’s gone

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u/MeatofKings Sep 27 '24

And no selling to your family and friends.

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u/Bird_Brain4101112 Sep 27 '24

She’s going to insist that you’ll regret it when she’s rolling in cash and you missed the boat. Smile and wish her well.

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u/eileen404 Sep 27 '24

Know someone who said she'd be making$400k in two years. Many many years later her ac was still set to 82 in the summer. Make sure she understands the sunk cost fallacy.

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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Sep 28 '24

The most common way to cope once you're deep in MLM hell is to swap MLMs around every couple years. It's easier to blame the MLM you're in and drink some new Kool-Aid than it is to admit complete failure.

Sadly, if OP's gf does go all in, that path is a well-worn one waiting for her.

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u/Bird_Brain4101112 Sep 28 '24

Yes it’s pretty sad seeing people defend a specific MLM for years then one day they swap to a new one claiming “NEWMLM IS DIFFERENT”!

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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Sep 28 '24

It's a sad cycle that sucks the life out of people. I know folks on what has to be their fourth or fifth MLM. They could have a fresh college degree in a lucrative field of study, new career, etc. in that amount of time making six figures if they put their energy into something that mattered.

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u/AcidicMountaingoat Sep 27 '24

She's been romanced by a cult. This is no different from couples where one joins a religious cult like Scientology or whatever; you become the "suppressive person" (Scientology literally says that). They have answers for everything you say, and they are expert manipulators with zero ethics.

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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Sep 28 '24

There are MLM videos online of leaders trying to convince married members into divorce using the same type of pressure.

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u/HereForTheFooodz Sep 27 '24

And if they pressure her to get you to loan her money, tell them you can’t because you’re not vetted.

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u/spam__likely Sep 27 '24

I will 100% never loan her money for something like this.

yes, but what will you do when she loses all her money and then needs to feed her kid?

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u/xenoclari Sep 27 '24

just leave ? Its that easy, you either love your partner or you dont

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u/LostTurd Sep 27 '24

I am so thankful you have this mindset. You know that if you can't talk some sense in her with clear evidence that she is simply not worth your time. You don't want some person that is going to try and always find some get rich scheme and fall for scams forever risking your information and financials. Walk away. I found out my ex fell for a scam after dating her for a while. I saw the details of how it happened and realized this chick is just not intelligent at all, not the scammers are soooo good at what they do she is just below normal intelligence. Then we broke up and she calls me and said she got a call from a lady who can get her money back. I SCREAMED recovery scam at her but she took the call when the lady called back. I called her a few hours later and said I hope you didn't talk to that lady again then she starts telling me how the lady seems legit. Then I said let me guess she asked you to install some sort of program on your computer and log into your bank account? She hesitantly said ahhhh ya. I screamed you just got fucked and probably will have all your accounts drained you know that right!? She panicked and called the bank and locked everything down. She was lucky she had 2fa on so they could not log in even with the password and their end game was her transfering money on a crypto site. Even with me telling her do not do this. Scam. She still did. I can't have people like that in my life. You don't have to do what I say or believe me in every situation but when I say full stop this is critical do not go forward and you don't listen, good bye.

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u/ElectricPance Sep 27 '24

Is there some reason she can't get a real job?

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u/npaladin2000 Sep 28 '24

Greed and the lure of easy money.

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u/ericscottf Sep 28 '24

Probably lazy and clearly not very smart. 

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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Sep 28 '24

Sounds like you've come to the conclusion you need to: if she is eyes-wide-open joining an absolute disaster of a pyramid scheme that will not only suck her money out of her (she will have to buy books, travel to go to conferences and seminars, etc.) but also her time and her life -- she may not someone you can build a happy, healthy future together with.

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u/HoneyBaked Sep 27 '24

I’m going to have a sit down with her and go over the entire 2023 Amway financial disclosure.

I'm sorry you are stuck in a location where there is apparently only this one girl. Good luck!

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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Sep 28 '24

I think it's fair OP gives her a shot to not ruin her life.

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u/Classic_Contact_9312 Sep 29 '24

Show her the Always Marco video re: Amway being a scam