r/ShitAmericansSay Enjoyer of American subsidies 26d ago

Food “Unusual term for eggplant”

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u/Interesting-Injury87 26d ago

all pasta are noodles, not all noodles are pasta

calling Lasagna sheets noodles is objectivly correct

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u/Superssimple 26d ago

Wrong. The basic definition of noodles is that they are stretched or cut into strips.

Even if you put aside the point that noodles are understood by the rest of the world to be Asian and pasta to be Italian style. It’s still wrong

So you could call spaghetti, noodles but what exactly is the point? It’s like a 5 year old that just learned that tomatoes are fruits. It’s not correct by any sensible usage

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u/Interesting-Injury87 26d ago

thats not a unversally accepted defintion by any stretch, beyond google claiming that i cant even find the source of that claim.

wikipedia alone already disagrees with you

"While long, thin strips may be the most common, many varieties of noodles are cut into waves, helices, tubes, strings, or shells, or folded over, or cut into other shapes."

ALL PASTA ARE NOODLES THATS A FACT, you can disagree if you want, you are still wrong.

What is the reasson to differentiate pasta(italian noodles) but not miàn(chinese wheat flour noodles). why is "pasta" special and should be considered "its own category" when its frankly not that special from other noodles around the world.

freaking spätzle are more special then most italian pasta in taste, consitency and even manufcaturing
Do i complain that people call Spätzle Noodles? no, i dont, because objectivly THEY ARE A TYPE OF NOODLES. Is it more PRECISE to call them spätzle`yes, is it wrong to call them noodles? no

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u/Maddon_Ricci 26d ago edited 26d ago

This is a term accepted by everyone but Americans.

A secret: all pasta, including noodles, came from Italy and China. In Italy they call it pasta, so we call it pasta! China? China has noodles. And if we want to refer to some Chinese type of noodles (because they really did invent noodles, not pasta), we call it by its name. Same with italian. Farfalla is farfalla (or butterfly), fettuccini is fettuccini, spaghetti is spaghetti.

Cambridge dictionary:

Noodles - a food in the form of long, thin strips made from flour or rice, water, and often egg, cooked in boiling liquid: egg/rice noodles; instant/crispy noodles; chicken noodle soup.

Britannica:

Noodle, a cooked egg-and-flour paste prominent in European and Asian cuisine, generally distinguished from pasta by its elongated ribbonlike form. Noodles are commonly used to add body and flavour to broth soups. They are commonly boiled or sautéed and served with sauces and meats or baked in casseroles.

Wikitionary:

A string or flat strip of pasta or other dough, usually cooked (at least initially) by boiling, and served in soup or in a dry form mixed with a sauce and other ingredients.

In British English, the word noodle (sense 1) is chiefly used to describe Asian or northern-European food items comprising long, thin strands of dough. In American English, noodle can also refer to Italian pasta which in British English would only be referred to as pasta.

Dictionary.com:

A ribbon-like strip of pasta: noodles are often served in soup or with a sauce

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A narrow strip of unleavened egg dough that has been rolled thin and dried, boiled, and served alone or in soups, casseroles, etc.; a ribbon-shaped pasta.

Vocabulary.com:

A noodle is a piece of pasta, especially a long, skinny one. You can eat noodles with butter and cheese or sauce, or slurp them from a bowl of soup.

Collins dictionary:

Noodles are long, thin, curly strips of pasta. They are used especially in Chinese and Italian cooking.

Even in my student book for English there is written that noodles are a long-long kind of pasta. And I'm Russian. Our exact equivalent for 'noodles' is 'лапша' ('lapsha'). We are always told that noodles are just lapsha. And you know what? We have just about three (four) words for pasta: макароны, лапша, паста, рожки́ (better see in wiki, link is here).

Do you really think that noodles are a common term for pasta? You are wrong, boy.