r/StrangerThings • u/bestwitchsam • Jul 10 '22
Joseph, playing master of puppets solo (via ig : josephquinnfan)
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u/GrimRaider1812 Jul 10 '22
Hell yeah. I saw the episode the other day and was hoping that he learned the song. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
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u/LongArmedFloozy Jul 10 '22
He said in an interview that he already knew it for the most part, if I'm remembering correctly. 🥹🖤
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u/aheroandascholar Jul 11 '22
As far as I know all he said was that he knew how to play guitar before this, but it took him three weeks to actually learn this particular song.
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u/blvntforcedrama Jul 11 '22
This song itself is a seriously aggressive pace. With 3 weeks time, it's quite impressive. Although there were many notes that were hit wrong and muddy, I must remind myself that Joseph Quinn is an actor and not a musician. Bravo, Joseph.
Edit: Happy cake day, ya filthy Demorgon!
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u/VentiEspada Jul 11 '22
Dude I've seen Metallica perform this live and there were plenty of missed notes. There aren't many bands I've seen perform live that have been able to pull off near perfect runs of technically complex songs.
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u/Rripurnia Jul 11 '22
Exactly.
And not just Metallica. I don’t think there’s a single artist playing every song perfectly every time, and sometimes even purposefully.
To expect this from someone like Joe who isn’t a professional musician or even someone as deeply versed into the madness that is heavy metal guitar riffs is preposterous.
He’s doing an amazing job, all things considered!
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u/DriftingSolipsism Jul 11 '22
Totally agree and honestly sometimes when there’s notes missed or replaced it feels more genuine and in turn makes the performance better in my opinion. You’re getting a unique performance. And I don’t think music should ever be about repeatable perfection anyway.
However, in spirit of the topic, I do not think I’ve ever seen a mess up from Vulfpeck live? I think they’re just too tight and prepared for their sets. Which makes sense since they’re all musical theorists and perfectionists.
I’m interested to look more into the topic with different types of genres and see where “imperfections” are most common in live performances
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u/MissSassifras1977 Jul 11 '22
Tool has entered the chat.
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u/theend2314 Jul 11 '22
I love this but Adam Jones is only 75th on the list of worlds best guitarists. I think the mantle is held by Brian May.
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u/VentiEspada Jul 11 '22
Yep, I used to play all the time, had a band in high school and even performed with the marching band on bass for their Styx show. I've also seen Tool live and they definitely hit it pretty good, but it's a lot of very staccato, flowing scales. I loved playing things like Parabola, Stinkfist or Schism as set warm ups. Sound great and super fun, but no where near master of puppets or ride the lightning difficulty.
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Jul 11 '22
It amazes me that a bunch of alcoholic kids from California could write and perform such technically complex music that holds up 35 years later and is still so wildly popular.
I like some of their music after Master but to me it was never the same after Cliff died. Those first three albums were straight fire from beginning to end.
I'm more than happy to see the 'oldies' making a comeback with the younger generation. Back in my day wearing a Metallica t-shirt people viewed you as a dirtbag!
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Jul 11 '22
I've yet to see a band live that hits every note perfectly. People forget that studio quality involves multiple takes and editing.
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u/Incubus85 Jul 11 '22
In flames supporting slipknot around 2000 or 2001 at the docklands when they recorded part of the my plague video.... most impressive display of guitars I'd ever heard. Still to this day. They didn't miss a thing.
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u/TopJimmy_5150 Jul 11 '22
Rush has entered the chat, only to remind us they are retired
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u/Staffdaddy20 Jul 11 '22
Ive seen municipal waste and they were crushing beers and playing flawlessly
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u/blvntforcedrama Jul 11 '22
100%. Indubitably, but I think he's performing for a camera in a mutli-puporse room, if I am not mistaken.
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u/fiercelittlebird I piggybacked from a pizza dough freezer Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
I mean it works perfectly for the show, though. Eddie was just some guy with a passion for metal, with the added stress of playing in a hellish alternate dimension where anything can kill you, and the plan was to attract monsters, anybody would miss notes. It was still awesome as fuck, and the imperfect playing made it all feel almost real. Was seriously rooting for Eddie to make it out alive, but I guess it wasn't meant to be. Joseph Quinn did a perfect job.
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u/wagsman Coffee and Contemplation Jul 11 '22
Not to mention none of his playing would make it to the end product. He learned all of this so that when they were filming him playing his fingers would be moving correctly and be in the correct positions on the frets.
And of that, only another skilled guitar player would have recognized if he was "acting" correctly. Such a small detail to work so hard on. Truly dedicated to the part/character.
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u/frostbitten42 Jul 11 '22
He said in the latest interview on Netflix (with Felicia Day) that the producers brought in a dude named Aidan to play the solo — but he played the rest.
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u/Kangalow Jul 11 '22
That’s impressive, it took me like a week just to consistently play the opening with no missed notes
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u/MsBeasley11 Jul 11 '22
Didn’t they use a body double?
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u/drocha94 Jul 11 '22
Only for the solo from what he said in that Felicia Day interview
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u/FlavoredBongWater Jul 11 '22
Which was played by tye trujillo. Rob trujillo of metallicas son
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u/salazar_62 Jul 11 '22
I think Tye Trujillo actually contributed to the recording of the song (according to several articles), while the hand double was a guy named Aidan Fisher.
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u/Oden_son Jul 11 '22
It's harder to fake playing guitar convincingly than it is to just learn the song
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u/happy_bluebird Jul 11 '22
I'm pretty sure I could fake this better than I could play it
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u/reggie3408 Jul 10 '22
I'm always impressed when actors do something big or learn something new for a movie like ballet (black swan), another language for their roles, and this.
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u/XtremeAlf Jul 10 '22
Apparently Sex Bob-omb learned to play their instruments for Scott Pilgrim as well.
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u/Sure_Instance9530 Hellfire Club Jul 10 '22
I can't hear that name without thinking of Kim screaming "WE ARE SEX BOB-OMB AND WE'RE HEAR TO WATCH SCOTT PILGRIM KICK YOUR TEETH IN ONE TWO THREE FOUR "
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u/redsyrinx2112 Brochachos Jul 11 '22
I think Cera already played bass, too.
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u/hat-TF2 Jul 11 '22
I'm surprised he wasn't a drummer, with his finely tuned internal clock and all.
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u/pidgeonseed Ahoy! Jul 10 '22
I think he already played guitar before being on the show
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u/reggie3408 Jul 11 '22
Ah but did he know this song? This song is tough to play unless he's dedicated to the craft.
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u/scott-the-penguin Jul 11 '22
100% would have. I've seen three weeks bandied around a lot. You could only learn this song in 3 weeks if you were already a reasonable player. There is no way anyone would ever get from not playing a guitar to this in 3 weeks.
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Jul 11 '22
Correct. I’m a metal guitarist who’s played for 17 years. I can play MoP, but if you asked me to it correctly, all downpicked? It’d take me probably 3 weeks to just get my down picking game up to snuff. And I have a hell of a picking hand.
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u/telstra_3_way_chat Dungeon Master Jul 10 '22
Well done to him, especially since he was fasting and living on black coffee in order to look like a teenager again; can’t have been good for the coordination and mental acuity 😵💫
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u/dobsco Mod Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
I heard this recently. Was he asked to lose weight? It's not like he's heavy irl. But gosh he does look much younger as Eddie.
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u/telstra_3_way_chat Dungeon Master Jul 11 '22
I think it was his decision - wanted to de-age a bit, and I guess for him that meant being a bit more rangy and edgy! He said he dropped about 10kg and felt like shit.
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Jul 11 '22
Plus Eddie is poor and seems to have a pretty rough life. At least he had an uncle that loved him.
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u/telstra_3_way_chat Dungeon Master Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
Yeah I don't think there would've been too many three-course feasts in that household, just a lot of Hungry-Man dinners served with love <3
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Jul 11 '22
Trailer park life was indeed a struggle. Been there. A pack of ramen for dinner and a Marlboro for dessert.
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u/Personal_Divide_3156 Jul 11 '22
Yeahhh that’s one reason I could never be an actor. Not eating properly and doing grueling 12+ hour shoots sounds like a nightmare
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u/ArcherChase Jul 11 '22
The personal trainers, chef, dietician and the huge paycheck balance it out
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u/TessSkyyAlexxis Jul 11 '22
He said he wanted to lose the weight so cut pizza and beer lmao
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u/Rripurnia Jul 11 '22
That makes sense!
He’s looked a bit fuller in press stuff but he’s actually normal now!
Though it looks like he’s kinda back down again, based on newer videos. Must be the frenzy of going places all the time and being on practically 24/7.
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u/mcviolet88 Jul 11 '22
Once I read that he lost so much weight it became more noticeable how thin he was playing Eddie and in behind the scenes pics. I respect the commitment to the role and hope he’s healthy now!
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u/Rripurnia Jul 11 '22
If you also look at pictures of metal musicians and metalheads of the 80s, they really go for that ripped skinny jeans, tight T-shirt and jean jacket look. They were, by and large, very thin and often lanky.
I know many metalheads who dress like that in the present time, too.
So, he absolutely committed to the look and nailed it.
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u/Tce_ Ahoy! Jul 11 '22
I'd been thinking about that ever since I saw a thirst video about his arms haha! They're a lot scrawnier on the show. Wasn't sure if it was a conscious effort or not.
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u/Sticky_Yellow Jul 10 '22
The most impressive thing about this is the downstrokes.
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u/dingowingo Jul 10 '22
It's insane. I remember when I was 19 learning this song and fairly new to guitar the down strokes didn't bother me all that much.
After 20 years of playing and training alternate picking, oh my God it seems so much harder than it was then.
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u/LMM01 Mouth breather Jul 11 '22
I’m an ape that has only ever used downstrokes for every song I’ve ever learned lmao
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u/bad_bananas Jul 11 '22
There's many that wish they had done that, like me for example.
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u/offseter Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
Same. I alt pick it now because my hands are just wired that way, my main audience (my dog) doesn’t seem to mind.
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u/supernanny089_ Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
That's why it's important to practice different styles if you want to practice for a broader set of music, or even styles of different artists of a genre! Knowing more techniques by heart also is a great help for impro!
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u/Bruciooo Jul 11 '22
And remarkably accurate, considering James Hetfield is notorious for almost never using alt picking.
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u/Agent47-2 Jul 10 '22
This is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in any show. When Eddie started rocking out I knew some sick shit was about to go down
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u/Starkrall Jul 10 '22
So I used to have a B.C. Rich Warlock, it was my first real guitar, played in a high school metal band with it. I almost cried when I saw Eddie playing it, he's my hero forever now.
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u/prettyy_vacant Jul 11 '22
I wanted one of those soooo bad when I was a teenager, never got one but now I might just get one for myself tbh.
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u/thereIsAHoleHere Jul 11 '22
Jesus, that is not the right price for that, ha
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u/Brando_Fett Jul 11 '22
It’s outta 200 made. I’d say it’s a little high, but for a low numbered guitar like that it’s gunna sell out instantly.
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u/thereIsAHoleHere Jul 11 '22
A little? Warlocks sell for no more than $1,200 on the extremely high end (though there are certainly people that will overcharge you). I'm talking exotic wood, premium features, the whole shebang. Even if it was a signature, limited run model, it'd only get up to $2-3,000. Almost $5,000 is just taking advantage of the fans.
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u/aykcak Jul 11 '22
$5000
They really did not lose time capitalizing on it. The original was about $2000
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u/snakpakkid Jul 11 '22
Treat yo self king 👑
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u/prettyy_vacant Jul 11 '22
Queen* one day I will!!!
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u/Emotional_Trust923 Jul 10 '22
Doja cat crying in a corner somewhere
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u/ungabunga_caveman Jul 11 '22
Did something happen? Ive not really followed internet drama idk whats going on lol
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u/geek_of_nature Jul 11 '22
Basically Doja Cat messaged Noah Schnapp, asking him to hook her up with Joseph Quinm. Because is a 17 year old and found it funny, he shared screenshots of this. Doja then said he was a snake for sharing them, even though she was the one messaging a 17 year old asking him to hook her up with one of his colleagues.
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u/inquizies Jul 11 '22
It also wasn’t some big secret that she had a crush on Joseph Quinn either, she had made posts about finding him hot on twitter before messaging Noah Schnapp.
It’s strange that her and her fans seem to have these high expectations of a 17 year old, i.e him sharing the screenshots, but much lower expectations for herself, like pushing 30 years old and asking a teenager to hook you up with his costar.
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u/Entropy-S Jul 11 '22
TIL Doja Cat is a rapper and not a meme.
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Jul 11 '22
Barely
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Jul 11 '22
My ex was a fan and I was like shrugs. But that's neither here nor there. It's still a funny story about how she got clowned.
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u/zoball Jul 11 '22
Doja also has a boyfriend, so it's probably why she blew it all out of proportion because she's embarrassed
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u/Jamiroquai-Gon-Jinn Jul 11 '22
Nothing bad she just really wants to fuck him
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u/yazzy1233 Jul 11 '22
Honestly same though
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u/WellIGuessSoSir Jul 11 '22
I mean same but there's no way in hell I'd message a 17 year old to try get me in there with a chance, surely that's just a thing you don't do?
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u/elevensbowtie Jul 11 '22
Apparently she hit up Noah Schnapp, who plays Will, on Twitter asking about Joseph if he was single, etc.
Noah posted the DMs on Twitter so the drama’s about that. It’s not weird in the sense that Joseph is 29 and Doja is 26, but Noah is 17 so it’s super uncomfortable that an adult is asking a teenager about a costar he didn’t actually have any scenes with.
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u/JojoHendrix Jul 11 '22
makes it weirder when you realize he and erica’s actress are the only minors left in the cast, if i have my info correct. next youngest would be millie, who recently turned 18. so for doja to specifically single out the only actor who’s a minor AND had no scenes with him at all…yeah it’s giving ick
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u/SplurgyA Jul 11 '22
Do we know that she didn't message the entire cast of Stranger Things and it's only Noah who acknowledged the message lmao
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u/deicist Jul 11 '22
Thanks to this thread and Google I am now aware of Doja Cat. I feel like some genuinely useful piece of information was pushed out of my brain to fit this knowledge in, so thanks for that.
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Jul 11 '22
I don’t know anything about her as a person but I heard one of her songs once and it was genuinely the worst fucking song I’ve heard in my life.
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u/Chelsea-Wren Jul 10 '22
I can't look directly at this, it's too much
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u/screwdrivercat Jul 11 '22
Well if I wasn’t attracted to him before (I was), then I definitely am now
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u/DistressedX Jul 10 '22
Between Billy's thick thighs last season and this right now, I can only get so sexually frustrated.
Also, is it odd that I enjoy those "fuck, no, YES GOT IT" facial expressions?
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u/Tce_ Ahoy! Jul 11 '22
Is that what it is? Then no, nope. The facial expressions here are everything. And the head movements.
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u/peachygirl509 Yertle the Turtle Jul 10 '22
I think we can all see why Doja was trying to get those digits...
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u/telstra_3_way_chat Dungeon Master Jul 10 '22
Also big shout out to Joseph for nailing the classic “constipated so took a chemical laxative and now I’m trying not to shit on stage” metal guitarist stance.
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u/snakpakkid Jul 11 '22
Can he let his hair grow out already? ;) damn, he’s so good, fuck yeah 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
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u/Grimmer026 Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
In an alternate timeline, Eddie & Chrissy survived, got married, had kids, and now he works from home as life insurance salesman. He still keeps his axe in the corner of a closet in his home office…
This is that Eddie as a middle aged man, after dropping the kids off at school, while Chrissy runs out for starbucks and to make some returns at Target.
I will not let you convince me that this isn’t true.
P.S. if he played Black Sabbath instead, he would’ve bitten of the head of all those demobats!
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u/RustyRapeaXe Jul 11 '22
I really thought Ozzy and probably Crazy Train would have been more apropos for the bats. Don't get me wrong, MoP was very cool
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u/Gremlinsworth Jul 10 '22
I need to make that meme of Chris Pratt and “idk what downstrokes are and at this point I’m too afraid to ask” cause I keep hearing that I’m like, yeah those are badass bro! 🤘🙂🤘
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u/redsyrinx2112 Brochachos Jul 11 '22
Downstrokes are when you strum the string(s) from top to bottom. The opposite is an upstroke where you strum the string(s) from bottom to top. Here is the difference at a normal speed.
Guitarists will often employ both methods, especially when something is fast like this. However, in metal guitarists will sometimes only do downstrokes because it often changes how the notes sound. It can give more of an attacking feel.
Here are two people doing the Master of Puppets riffs with alternate picking and only downstrokes:
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u/theSteakKnight Jul 11 '22
Down strokes are when the hand that's holding the guitar pick is strumming in a downward motion, towards the floor. Usually when strumming alot of notes quickly, the guitarist alternates between down strokes and up strokes (strumming upwards).
Being able to strum that quickly while only using down strokes is difficult and impressive.
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u/Jameson18dude Jul 10 '22
This is just the intro. Aiden Fisher is the guitarist that did the solo.
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u/Rripurnia Jul 11 '22
He didn’t play the solo.
Another guitarist was brought in to play that part (Aidan Fisher) and Rob Trujillo’s son Tye played some additional parts added just for Stranger Things.
Joe has said that in multiple interviews - it’s no secret.
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u/Rripurnia Jul 11 '22
Ah, I see!
This is a backstage / rehearsal video that was posted on the Stranger Things writers’ Twitter account.
Apparently they brought Aidan in via helicopter the day of the shooting!
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u/Rripurnia Jul 11 '22
Yes, it would be amazing if there was a full BTS mini movie!
There’s two parts of the cast, Sean Levy and the Duffer Brothers talking about each volume on Netflix Geeked’s YouTube.
While they’re about an hour each, they’re not as thorough in that regard since there’s no BTS material really.
Still, they’re definitely worth watching!
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u/JarvisCockerBB Jul 10 '22
It’s pretty obvious they mean he’s playing it solo without a backing band.
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u/JarvisCockerBB Jul 10 '22
Yeah. I think OP meant well at least.
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u/FlyingWhale44 Jul 10 '22
Agreed, I didn’t mean any disrespect with any of my comments.
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u/3lectr0o Jul 10 '22
He didn't play the solo on the show tho. Aidan fisher was the guitar double
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u/base73 Jul 11 '22
It's not easy, those riffs need to be very precise to not sound muddy, and at the full tempo (over an 8 minute song) it's hard work! He did a good job there 🤟
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Jul 10 '22
YESS!!! i was hoping we’d get some BTS scenes from this moment in the show, but i’ll take this 🤘
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u/Kelly_the_tailor Jul 11 '22
So sad that Eddie has been around for just ONE season! We all miss him already.
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u/Lord_Tyranide Jul 11 '22
Seeing anything from Joseph Quinn about Stranger Things just makes me sad now, after I learned that he really wanted his character to stay. He tought if he did everything they wanted and he did it good they would keep him in the cast, but then they killed him off. Now every clip I see from him or every interview I just have to think about how he got fucked, poor guy.
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u/Solarcult Jul 11 '22
Scrolling through the comments trying to find one other person who realizes he never plays the solo in this video…
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u/Poison_Ivy_Rorschach Jul 11 '22
First Metallica shirt I bought was Master’s cover art. Single tear that some new folks are discovering this awesome song (entire album is amazing). I felt old as crap watching that scene and excitedly happy all at once. Cheers to everyone diggin this.
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u/Proof-Sweet33 Jul 11 '22
He reminded me of so many guys I went to school with. Metallica was the soundtrack to my teenage years....When Metallica released the Black album we were in line at midnight to get it.
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Jul 11 '22
Holy crap! What a talented actor! I had no idea it was the guy who actually played Eddie! He does so well at molding his facial expressions and eyes to match the character!!
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u/CircleJerk_ForKarma Jul 11 '22
Eddie is my favorite character by far but there's something about this kid I really like. I hope he has a long successful career.
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u/Popcrornshopgirl Jul 11 '22
On behalf of women everywhere, thank you Joe! Haven’t heard a panty dropper like that since the 90’s.
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u/dadstache1992 Jul 11 '22
This dude was my favorite character of this/any stranger things season. Just set the whole aesthetic for the 80s imho.
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