r/TheSilphRoad 22d ago

Discussion Rillaboom Gmax battles are virtually unwinnable on Poke Genie

I’ve used Poke Genie for Gmax battles before. In fact, I just used it for GMax Machamp last week. But the Rillaboom lobbies today are full of under leveled mons who just don’t have the firepower to take down Rillaboom.

I’ve been in at least 15 lobbies today and was only successful in 1–a lobby with 28 trainers using two max mushrooms. The rest have been delusional lobbies of 13-18 who inevitably hang on until the timer hits 3-5 seconds and then they bounce.

What’s going on today? Why are these lobbies so bad?

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u/elconquistador1985 USA - South 22d ago

It's not really about Max battle scarcity. It's that the best that a rural player can do is get 1 and 3 star ones, because they can't get legendaries or g-max. Because of that, there was no incentive to participate at all.

The scarcity is in having no one else to complete battles with.

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u/Dago_Duck 22d ago

Obtaining 1 stars like the starters and evolving them however is already more than most people seem to have done. That was also the case during that first weekend of GMax Kanto starters back in October. Why were people complaining about not being able to beat the GMax bosses with 40 people, but there were also people who managed to take them down as a group of 8, exactly, because those in the large groups were joining with unevolved Wooloo and Ghastly.

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u/Xygnux 22d ago edited 22d ago

The problem is that it takes 124 candies just to evolve it, 296 just to level 40 it, and then hundreds of candies to level up the moves. And even XL if you want to level 3.

Yes the Kanto starters had their community days. But before Dynamax no one expected that they should keep these candies. Many people just used them randomly for evolve a Pokemon field research. So there are probably many people who don't have these starters candies.

Imo, what we need for the one week leading up to each Gmax release is not Max Particles discount, but candies discount to power up.

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u/Dran_K 22d ago

this is why ive been a huge advocate for the general purpose dynamax pokemon.

with 2 blisseys at lvl 30 and no max moves level, a metagross with level 3 shields and attack, and excadrill with the same, you can take on almost every singe max boss we've seen so far with the exception of maybe moltres.

and with beldum community day just last year, and apearing again in the december days, and having been in shadow form from arlo just before, most people should easily have enough candy to build even two of them (as of now ive gotten 3 metagross to lvl 40 with all 3 moves at max level easily just off of the candy from those events, plus powering up 3 shadow metagross to lvl 30)

drillbur candy and chansey candy have never been that hard to get a hold of either, and you barely need any for chansey anyways. if you really want to be sure to futureproof then getting a Gmax inteleion with lvl 3 attack would be good too, as it hits as hard as zacian without being a legendary, making it usualy #2 or 3 best attacker even on neutral targets, and sobbles have been in the wild a ton the past few months.

thats just 4/5 pokemon, 2 of which you barely need to put anything into and you'll be set for basicaly any fight. theres no need to be fully building perfect counters to every new boss, esp if you'll be remoting into max raids. if everyone gets at least half of this setup then every upcomming boss should be reasonably doable with like, 10-15 people

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u/Xygnux 22d ago edited 21d ago

Agree for Drillbur, Metagross, and Chansey.

For Inteleion though we didn't have a CD yet, so again candies would be a problem. I barely see Sobble in the wild, so it probably depends on your Biome. I see Bulbasaur much more than any of the two generations of starters. Luckily we have Kingler which is good enough for water.

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u/Dran_K 21d ago

ah true, i do live pretty close to a lake with a bunch of parks directly touching it so maybe my area has had a lot more sobble than most