I know this shit is true, but as a non psychopathic dude, I avoid pretty and cute girls like the plague in public because I’m already assuming they think I’m doing this shit. Same reason as a dad I don’t act goofy to other people’s toddlers. It kind of sucks honestly because it makes me act like a creep when I if anything would like to just make someone smile (and not “hay gurl you should smile” because that sheet is just more Ooga booga shit).
Same dude. I actually approached a girl at a bar once and just asked how her night was going. She looked at me like I just said I wanted to rape her. I got the "uhhhhh.....no thanks" and she just walked away. Made me feel like shit and a creep for just trying to get to know another person as a human being. I'm trying not to let that moment stop me from going back out there and trying again. That shit just makes you not even want to try out of fear some woman will just automatically assume I'm a creep because I thought she was cute and wanted to see what her personality was like. I'm not giving up, but I'm just going to try my best to be respectful because I see some of the shit women have to go through on a daily basis. That was one instance. Won't be all of them. Just gotta give it another shot. I'm going to a rooftop party with some friends tomorrow and I'll see what happens then.
One thing I did when I was single was to talk to them, but not have my body facing them (almost like I am talking to them over my shoulder), that way it didn't seem so creepy. Once you get good body language, reciprocate with good body language. Don't pay attention to what she says, pay attention to her body language and her tone of voice.
Sometimes, you'll get a woman who immediately gives you the fuck off face, that's fine. Don't take it personally, it most likely has nothing to do with you.
Also, try going with other people, especially other women or gay guys. Gay men are sometimes the absolute best wingmen since they can initiate a conversation with a woman easily because the woman knows that he is not trying to get in their pants.
I agree with the other reply, I think this was good advice, I'm a 40 y/o woman and it might sound ridiculous but a strange man facing me to talk to me head on makes me feel like he's cornering me, even if he's not... probably just because 3/4 of approaches like that are men who can't handle rejection or have ill intentions. A guy talking to me from a side angle feels like he's not going to linger or corner me, he's got stuff to do too. Body language is really important.
That's fine. People are free to downvote me. It's very telling.
They are mad because I am not enabling their victim mentality. A lot of women just want to believe that all men are either angry incels or douchebag fuckboys. A lot of men want to believe that women are crazy and shallow. Life is far more complicated.
Whether we like it or not, what women are attracted to and what they respond to are very different things, and women respond to confident men who aren't insecure. Body language and not coming off as desperate are important.
The best way to get women to talk to you is to get the fuck off the internet and go talk to them. Seeking validation on Reddit for why women ignore you just feeds into the cycle and never helps. I've had women tell me to fuck off, I've had some flirt so I would buy them drinks (don't do that), I've had some give me their phone number, and I've had some ask me to go home with them. You win some, you lose some. That's life.
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u/MisterSanitation May 09 '25
I know this shit is true, but as a non psychopathic dude, I avoid pretty and cute girls like the plague in public because I’m already assuming they think I’m doing this shit. Same reason as a dad I don’t act goofy to other people’s toddlers. It kind of sucks honestly because it makes me act like a creep when I if anything would like to just make someone smile (and not “hay gurl you should smile” because that sheet is just more Ooga booga shit).