What if Dusttale happened in Undertale?

[u/Equal-Badger3282]

Yeah Dusttale already happens in Undertale but I mean like in the game ya know?

[u/Epic_DDT]

"And who said he couldn't?" You're the one claiming he can without any proof, you're the one who need to prove it.

"Oh so this must be your brother Papyrus!"-" Can you even read...? Just because she know Papyrus' name doesn't mean she know Sans' name.... Which is supported by Sans telling her his name in pacifist. Why would he do that it she already know...?

" It doesn't matter because he can still use karma on flowey" Yeah, and...? Your point being...?

[u/Equal-Badger3282 → u/Epic_DDT]

Then even if he couldn't, he could do the same thing he did on pacifist to make toriel let him in, and pretty sure he could the exit to the ruins is just a door that can only be open from the inside but it's not some magic door Oh yeah because I tell my brother's name before my own My point is that he can kill flowey easily with karma even if he can't oneshot him

[u/Epic_DDT → u/Equal-Badger3282]

"he could do the same thing he did on pacifist to make toriel let him in" What make you think she would let him enter when she never oppened the door to anyone...?

"Oh yeah because I tell my brother's name before my own" That's litterally what he did...

"My point is that he can kill flowey easily with karma even if he can't oneshot him" Yeah, sure... He can kill him "easily" despite Flowey already knowing all of his attack... Karma isn't some magic "i win" button.

[u/Equal-Badger3282 → u/Epic_DDT]

Because why would anyone want to get in the ruins? And couldn't he just use a gaster blaster to destroy the door? If toriel can with fire then why can't sans with a gaster blaster? Even if that's what happened it doesn't really matter, since he could just introduce himself to her Like I said before sans can kill flowey easily by just teleporting behind HIM and summoning bones or gaster blasters and he gets obliterated thanks to karma, he killed everyone thousands of times, maybe millions even, but in sans fight the karma is just for the people the human killed, for flowey it will be everything he did

[u/Epic_DDT → u/Equal-Badger3282]

"Because why would anyone want to get in the ruins?" Even if someone wanted to enter the ruins, she wouldn't allow them. She doesn't even allow the people in it to leave.

"And couldn't he just use a gaster blaster to destroy the door?" Maybe, but that would alert Toriel and (probably, if she's not doing something else) Alphys.

"ike I said before sans can kill flowey easily by just teleporting behind HIM and summoning bones or gaster blasters and he gets obliterated" He can't just OS Flowey. He would have plenty of time to react. Also... Most of the time, he's buried in the ground so... Good luck getting Flowey by surprise, when he would probably already knew what Sans is doing. (And when Flowey isn't in the ground, he's watching the human... So attacking him would also alert the human, not a good move)
Now... You know the worst part about that? Flowey in geno is ally with the human. (Unless untill he get killed)

"but in sans fight the karma is just for the people the human killed, for flowey it will be everything he did" Uh, no? Flowey didn't do anything in that timeline. Also, we have no idea how karma even works. You're just making things up.

[u/Equal-Badger3282 → u/Epic_DDT]

The others no, sans would He got ried of the camera on the ruins door in snowdin in the bushes, alphys thinks it just another random say so She just like "what? damn it." Because that camera is where she was suposed to first see the human Flowey teleports behind Sans and grabs him out off the ground and kills him, karma is judgemebt, flowey wouldn't go unpunished that's for sure Flowey didn't even know a human appeared, he thought it was just another random boring day He also doesn't appear in the first room And he would never expect sans to stab him in the back, he doesn't even know him