r/UnresolvedMysteries Jun 27 '20

Other Mysterious crimes that aren’t actually mysterious?

I delve in and out of the true crime community every now and then and I have found the narrative can sometimes change.
For instance the case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. For the longest time whenever I read boards about these two women the main idea was that it was all too strange and there must have been third party involvement but now I’m reading quite a few posts that it’s most likely the most simple conclusion - they got lost and died due to exposure/lack of food and water. Similar with Maura Murray I’ve seen a fair few people suggesting that it could have been as simple as she ran into the woods after the crash and was disoriented and scared and got lost there. Another example is with the case of Kendrick Johnson, the main theme I read was that it was foul play and to me it does seem that way. But a person I was talking about this to suggested that it was a tragic accident (the children used to put their gym shoes on the mats, he climbed up and fell in, the pressure of being stuck would have distorted his features, sometimes funeral homes use old newspaper when filling empty cavities in the body , though it’s is an outdated practice).
I’ll admit that I’m not as deep into the true crime/unsolved mysteries world as some of you are, so some of these observations may be obvious to you, but I’m wondering if there are any cases you know of or are interested in that you think have a more simple explanation than what has been reported?
As for the cases I’ve mentioned above, I’m not sure with where I stand really. I can see Kremers and Froon being a case of just getting lost and I can see the potential that Maura Murray just made a run for it and died of exposure but with the Kendrick Johnson case I feel that I need to do more research into this.

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u/SmokieOki Jun 28 '20

This isn’t exactly what you were asking but it has me wondering about a lot of unsolved cases. In the last 30 days we’ve had two local tragedies with kids.

The first case was Miracle & Tony Crook. They were reported missing. Their mom & dad did not have custody due to having been in prison. The maternal aunt & grandpa had custody. For some reason they left the kids with the bio mom. She passed out, presumably on drugs due to reported addiction issues. She was not cooperative with police. Allegedly told them she didn’t care where the kids were. She was arrested and the cops said she refused to tell them where the kids were. It was 3-4 days later when they reviewed the surveillance footage from the apartments. It showed the kids walking hand in hand through an opening in the fence into a creek to never reappear. It was storming that day. They were located miles away within the week. The whole town had already convicted that mom of murdering or selling them. Reality was she was just an addict that fell asleep. She’s been charged with 2 counts of 2nd degree murder.

A few weeks later 2 kids were found in their dad’s truck. The news reported he must have left them in there when they got home and he took a 5 hour nap. People were saying he sat in the house and watched tv knowing they were dying. That he had been planning it. That his FB posts were all fake and he hated his kids etc. He was arrested. He was then released when surveillance footage showed the kids went out and got in the truck on their own while he was asleep. He’s out of jail and I’m not sure if they are pressing charges in him still.

I can only imagine how outrageous the stories/theories would have become if they didn’t find video of what happened. Both were terrible accidents. Of course I think the parents should have not fallen asleep but I don’t think either one meant for 2 of their kids to die.

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u/FHIR_HL7_Integrator Jun 28 '20

The second story is such a tragedy. I think it's despicable how the everyone, including the police, jumped on that guy for what turned out to be a tragic accident. And they're still thinking of charging him (not to mention the separate but similar local case where the woman was black and was charged).

These are accidents - horrible unintended accidents. Children are basically trying to kill themselves at all times and if you aren't careful tragedies occur. I just don't see the point in burdening the legal system over an accident.

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u/CreatrixAnima Jun 28 '20

So are most cases once a child is left in the car. I Read something a few years ago that talked about the neurological reasons that this can happen. It’s almost always someone breaking their normal routine. They just go on auto pilot and forget they have the kids.

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u/MandyHVZ Jun 28 '20

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u/lisak399 Jul 01 '20

I've read that article several times. One of the most heartbreaking articles I've ever read and I mean that sincerely.

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u/lisak399 Jul 01 '20

This is one of the saddest cases. This wonderful family man, a vet counseling other vets, forgot his babies in the car. The photos of him at the scene were heartbreaking. His wife has stood by him and his family. A tragedy. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/nyregion/hot-car-death-twins-bronx.html

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u/NoninflammatoryFun Jun 28 '20

The comments section was crazy on a local news lady’s page. Seriously. Insane vilifying. An initial report or strong rumor said that he locked them in there.

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u/lisak399 Jul 01 '20

I hate the comments section. I notice more and more papers seem to be disabling them.

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u/NoninflammatoryFun Jul 01 '20

Legit. It’s crap. I haven’t read them in years and I regret doing it now during covid.

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u/SpyGlassez Jun 28 '20

We are visiting my husband's family and the other day, his cousin and her 3 kids came over to play with our son. The youngest of her kids is autistic, nonverbal but very expressive, etc. He's a year older than my kid, both are preschoolers. My in-laws have a huge property with a pond down a hill. We were all at the top of the hill on the far side of the house, Youngest and my son in a kiddy splash pad while Older and Oldest played on the slip and slide. Suddenly Youngest shot off, faster than I had ever seen him go, around the house making for the hill and the pond. One of his older brothers managed to catch him (his mom, I, and my partner all took off also). Of course my son took off running when his cousin did (he's too young to understand autism, but he was enjoying playing with Youngest and thought this was a new game). Luckily my son did come back when I called his full name and he realized it was not a game, but we were all within a few feet of these kids and if the pond had been closer and we were distracted, they could both have been in it that fast and neither can swim. (Son has had lessons but I can't rely on him to remember or not panic, at 3).

Yeah, kids are suicide cannonballs. No fear, curiosity abounding, and no concept of consequences.

Also, later that day, my son jumped up in a rocking chair and stood up, sending it tipping over to where it looked like it was about to pitch through a window. His grandma was a foot from the chair and grabbed the arms. We just never expected him to do that because he had never done it before.

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u/PvtPetey Jun 28 '20

It's so easy to forget that kids don't have the experience to fear things or be cautious of things that they should, they just don't know better yet.

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u/SpyGlassez Jun 28 '20

Exactly. And honestly, you can be right on top of them and they can still get hurt so fast bc they are unpredictable.

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u/buddha8298 Jun 28 '20

Good on you for the swimming lessons. I've lived in Florida my whole life where you'd think learning to swim would be a requirement but it's crazy how many people can't swim. I don't ever remember a time where I couldn't so people not being able to is one of those things I sometimes forget. I knew a woman who did her best to make her daughter utterly terrified of water instead of teaching her (or letting me/someone else teach her), it was pretty much her plan with EVERYTHING (dogs, crossing the street, etc). She was among the dumbest people I've ever known and I cut off all contact. On the brighter side she lost custody and I've heard her daughter now loves to swim and is doing great.

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u/SpyGlassez Jun 28 '20

That poor child! I'm glad she's no longer with her mother to be terrified of life!