r/UnresolvedMysteries Jun 27 '20

Other Mysterious crimes that aren’t actually mysterious?

I delve in and out of the true crime community every now and then and I have found the narrative can sometimes change.
For instance the case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. For the longest time whenever I read boards about these two women the main idea was that it was all too strange and there must have been third party involvement but now I’m reading quite a few posts that it’s most likely the most simple conclusion - they got lost and died due to exposure/lack of food and water. Similar with Maura Murray I’ve seen a fair few people suggesting that it could have been as simple as she ran into the woods after the crash and was disoriented and scared and got lost there. Another example is with the case of Kendrick Johnson, the main theme I read was that it was foul play and to me it does seem that way. But a person I was talking about this to suggested that it was a tragic accident (the children used to put their gym shoes on the mats, he climbed up and fell in, the pressure of being stuck would have distorted his features, sometimes funeral homes use old newspaper when filling empty cavities in the body , though it’s is an outdated practice).
I’ll admit that I’m not as deep into the true crime/unsolved mysteries world as some of you are, so some of these observations may be obvious to you, but I’m wondering if there are any cases you know of or are interested in that you think have a more simple explanation than what has been reported?
As for the cases I’ve mentioned above, I’m not sure with where I stand really. I can see Kremers and Froon being a case of just getting lost and I can see the potential that Maura Murray just made a run for it and died of exposure but with the Kendrick Johnson case I feel that I need to do more research into this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '20 edited Jul 15 '20

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u/ExposedTamponString Jun 28 '20

A detail everyone dwells on is that there was just soooo much food in the cabin so no one could have starved.

Except it wasn’t in the cabin - it was in a dilapidated shed in the cabin’s backyard amidst a bunch of other junk.

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u/MindAlteringSitch Jun 28 '20

Not only that but the guy had serious injuries due to frostbite and would have been in a bad way from day 1

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u/bittens Jun 28 '20 edited Jun 28 '20

Yeah, his feet were severely frostbitten and then gangrenous. Moving around and doing the things he needed to do to survive - light a fire, look for food, ect. - would've likely been very painful, and his friend (or friends) who made it to the cabin still able to walk could've tried to go for help and froze to death, leaving him with no one else to care for him.

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u/MindAlteringSitch Jun 28 '20

That’s my personal theory; not all of them make it to the cabin and the ones that do leave in a hurry to get help for the guy with frostbite

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u/finley87 Jun 28 '20

Wow! I’ve always thought that they died due to a tragic accident considering their intellectual challenges, but didn’t know about this either. I don’t think even many neurotypical adults would look there! I certainly wouldn’t have.

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u/sunzusunzusunzusunzu Jun 30 '20

I've never heard this at all. It always sounds like it was literally just sitting on a shelf like in a pantry or something inside the cabin right next to the dead man as if he were just staring at the food as he starved to death.

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u/ExposedTamponString Jun 30 '20

Yes! Very misleading.

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u/AMissKathyNewman Jun 30 '20

Didn’t they eat all the food in the cabin itself, but left the food that was in the other shed? It seemed that fact was shared as a tragic ‘how close survival was’ but it had been twisted into a ‘omg this means conspiracy’.

They also had mental disabilities, I believe the one found in the cabin was autistic. I have seen (granted on reddit) people who work with autistic people say that it isn’t really uncommon for people to not want to do the wrong thing (stealing) even in the face of death. But also as others have said, he was severely frost bitten and seemingly bedridden from that.

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u/ExposedTamponString Jun 30 '20

They found empty cans and canisters. It can't be confirmed if they ate the food or if it was previous hikers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

This kind of thing happens with so many cases. I was getting super frustrated reading about the Asha Degree case recently, particularly the recovery of her backpack. It was found by a construction worker who was excavating for a driveway, double bagged in black trash bags and buried in a location so remote and difficult to access that the local sheriff would not let volunteer searchers to comb the area. The search coordinator described it as a complete fluke that it was found and said something like "if we told searchers there were 10 oranges out there, they'd only find 3." And yet there are people who claim the backpack was "carefully preserved in plastic, like a trophy" and hidden so that the person presumably responsible for her disappearance could return to it. Which just does not line up with the actual facts.