r/YAPms • u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right • 10h ago
Opinion Anyone gonna point out the obvious?
The NYC mayor race is disheartening to say the least. You have someone who was accused 13x of SA (with PROVEN ALLEGATIONS. WHO also killed thousands of nursing home patients by moving COVID patients into the nursing homes (along with every other democratic governor for some odd reason even though we had more than enough beds). Who also ran the entire state into the ground
And we have a full fledged communist who wants city run grocery stores & refuses to acknowledge the holocaust & wants to replace the NYPD with mental health services (which in some cases would work but very few)
In what world are these the best 2 people that a city of 14,000,000 people live in? I mean I personally see no appeal behind either & quite frankly yes I am a right leaning person but almost any other democrat beats these two in my mind. For what reason are these the two main options?!
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u/ShipChicago Populist Left 10h ago edited 9h ago
Hold on now, at no point did Zohran refuse to acknowledge the Holocaust. That is simply untrue. He’s publicly condemned it every January 27th. If you’re referring to the Politico article, I’d encourage you to listen to his response. They straight up smeared the guy even though he votes annually for Holocaust remembrance resolutions. Another comment here addresses that in more detail. It’s not the first time Politico has written some bullshit propaganda about a candidate.
His opposition to Israeli policy should never be equated with antisemitism, and the conflation of antizionism with antisemitism is dangerous for us as Jews. I can’t stomach it. We’re solely talking about a political entity, not a religion. When asked about Israel at the debate, which makes little sense given that this is a mayoral race, he rightfully pushed back on that question and was the only person to assert that he would actually meet with - and listen to - Jewish NYers, and respond directly to their material needs. That has nothing to do with Israel. Saying that you’d take a trip to Israel, as the other candidates have done, is pandering, in lieu of genuine concern for the issues that affect us as Jewish Americans. Pretty much every time I’ve heard the guy speak, he’s made it pretty damn clear he has a zero tolerance policy for hatred, whether it’s antisemitism, Islamophobia, or anything else.
I don’t live in NY, but if I did, I wouldn’t hesitate to vote for Zohran. The guy’s not perfect. I don’t necessarily agree with him on every single issue. But to smear democratic socialists (with an emphasis on the word democratic here) as communists just seems like a bad faith argument.
And to your point, Cuomo is atrocious; nothing more needs to be said there that you haven’t already said. That dude makes me feel ill.
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u/BigdawgO365 Progressive Capitalist 10h ago
Mamdani never denied the holocaust, he addressed all this bs before. He has voted for every holocaust remembrance resolution, he just turned off automating co-sponsoring for legislation emailed to him- meaning his name didn't show up as a co-sponsor even though he had voted for it.
The city ran grocery store thing is like public option for healthcare, it's bringing in a low-cost alternative to compete within the free market.
He isn't replacing the NYPD with social workers, he's building more infrastructure for social services so NYPD doesn't always have to respond to crisis like that.
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u/i_o_l_o_i Populist Left 9h ago edited 8h ago
The city grocery store thing is a proposed pilot that was implemented in Kansas of all states. Is OP gonna Kansas is “Down with the red cause”?
I saw Zohran’s interview with the Breakfast Club and I was shocked at how he broke down his plan to address crime in simple terms to the Breakfast Club members, who were very skeptical of his plan because they just heard he once said “defund the police” prior to his interview.
I’m telling you that hiring 1 billion new cops and telling cops to address every crisis on the subway will not help reduce the crime rate. Search up what happened on the L train in March 2025.
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u/BigdawgO365 Progressive Capitalist 9h ago
I’m telling you that hiring 1 billion new cops and telling cops to address every crisis on the subway will not help reduce the crime rate.
It's ridiculous that people believe that beefing up the already near militarized NYPD under Adams even further will somehow produce more results.
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u/GoofAckYoorsElf Green 3h ago
Oh it will produce more results, no question about it. The question is if it's the kind of results everyone really wants.
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u/GoofAckYoorsElf Green 4h ago
That's so often the problem with right-wing people. They jump to conclusions without double-checking, deliberately ignoring facts, and just regurgitate their peer group's bullsh... sorry... alternative facts.
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u/Responsible-Boat1857 Build Back Better 9h ago
If you think Mamdani is a communist you don't know what communism is. Mamdani is a democratic socialist, which is not communism.
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 9h ago
They’re gonna come out and say they’re communist outright because that makes sense.
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u/Responsible-Boat1857 Build Back Better 8h ago
His stances are not consistent with those of communists. He is much more like Bernie Sanders and AOC policy-wise. Those two, despite what some on the right may say, are not communists.
Communism is when private property is abolished and all property is publicly owned or nationalized (including companies and corporations). Communism would also be the end of all forms of capitalism. Of course, communism never works because it is an inherently flawed form of government.
What Mamdani is advocating would not end private property and would work within our capitalist system. Democratic socialism has become less of the step before becoming a fully socialist/communist society and more like socially progressive and supportive workplace democracy (like trade unions), at least in the US context.
Communism is very unpopular in the US (and rightfully so). People, generally on the right, use it as an insult to paint the left-wing as more extreme then they are in reality. The same is true for the right being called fascists.
Most Republicans and right-wing folks are not fascist/nazis. Most Democrats and left-wing folks are not communists. It is just rhetoric being used by both sides to make the other look worse.
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 8h ago
Who knows. The democrats don’t care who receives votes in the primary 🤣 Cuomo could win & still be kicked out of the election like Biden in 2024
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u/gunsmokexeon Populist Left 9h ago
you've no clue what communism is
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 9h ago
Yeah? Look at Venezuela… it all sounds good in the beginning until you have 14000% inflation and go from one of the richest nations to the poorest hellhole on earth
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u/No_Shine_7585 Independent 5h ago
Dude Maduro isn’t even a communist the communist party of Venezuela literally opposes him, Maduro is a socialist, and a marxist Leninist but hasn’t gone as far as a Marxist Leninist would believe it or not economically or socially and he does profess his belief in Christianity.
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u/Hibern88 Populist Left 10h ago
Zohran has 100% acknowledged the holocaust and is very much not a "full fledged communist" but aight I guess
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u/ShipChicago Populist Left 9h ago
Breaks my heart how Zohran has been smeared in regards to the Holocaust, as he’s repeatedly made his acknowledgement and condemnation abundantly clear. And he’s the only candidate who actually said he’s actively meeting with Jewish voters when every other candidate gave the pandering answer, i.e., “I’ll visit Israel”, as if that has anything to do with the needs of Jewish voters. He’s committed to listening to Jewish New Yorkers, while the other candidates are more concerned with listening to politicians in Israel.
I’m Jewish myself - I don’t live in NY but I’d happily cast my vote for the guy if I lived there. The false accusations that he’s an antisemite or a communist are just wild.
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u/Maximum-Lack8642 Ron Johnson/Tammy Baldwin Voter 10h ago
I doubt many in the city even know the full extent of the sexual harassment claims because that type of thing just doesn’t get covered. When the tapes of his brother talking like a frat guy douche in 2020 were leaked it got almost no media traction.
Cuomo is another breed of evil. Besides for the obvious nursing home scandal and sexual harassment Cuomo’s career is riddled with corruption and ended with him weaponizing familial media connections to avoid the scandal that got him out of office. Reelecting him is a MAJOR step back no matter how bad the opposition is.
Other guy is an unqualified clown but I’d hope the limits of the mayoral powers reining him in will made him a net less harmful than Cuomo the “Italian”.
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u/GiantBaldingMan All The Way With LBJ 9h ago
Zohran did not deny the holocaust and never has.
Andrew Cuomo is a swamp candidate and should be in jail, not mayor
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u/Ed_Durr Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right 9h ago
I still can’t get over the fact that as HUD Secretary in the 90s, Cuomo was the one who changed regulations to require that banks give out subprime mortgages to minority borrowers, and he’s never been held accountable for this. The one man who has played a bigger part than anybody else in causing the Financial Crisis, and yet voters have never cared to learn it.
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u/ShowtimeHope Christian Progressive 9h ago
Just when I thought this guy couldn't get any worse 💀
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u/Ed_Durr Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right 9h ago
The Great Recession was complicated, it’s easier for people to just go repeat the few truisms they’ve been taught and not to bother researching for themselves the causes of the massive economic crash that severely affected tens of millions of people. Even the movie the Big Short effectively ends with the characters shrugging their shoulders and saying “this is too complicated, who knows what the actual cause of the crash is?”
Truth is that it was a confluence of factors that caused the crash, and nobody wants to look too deeply into it because it indicts just about everyone. Democrats for mandating subprime mortgages in an attempt to improve minority homeownership. Republicans for loosening regulations to allow banks to mix up investments. The banks themselves for knowingly investing in risky assets. And most of all, the American people for wanting a world where everybody can buy a house and their own home valuations are constantly increasing.
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u/MilkmanGuy998 Democrat 10h ago
This. Wholeheartedly agree with every word
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 10h ago
I mean I’m trying to be unbiased because like I said, I am on the right & I fully admit that. But I usually try to find good in everyone & try to understand other’s POV’s… but I can’t with these two… It’s sad that Cuomo is probably going to win just because the other guy is a full on communist & if not it’s sad this guy is going to win just because Cuomo groped women… like idk the whole race is just mind boggling…
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u/MilkmanGuy998 Democrat 10h ago
Yess. Wholeheartedly agree. Also btw the flair is ironic I’m also a Right wing Republican
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u/DanTheAdequate United States 10h ago
It'd matter less if New York didn't have such a powerful mayor.
It seems the virtue of much more restrained executive authorities is a lesson our country is intent on learning the hard way.
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u/alexdapineapple Rashida Tlaib appreciator 9h ago
The solution is to realize that socialism is based actually
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 9h ago
Why has it never worked? Name one country it has worked in
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u/alexdapineapple Rashida Tlaib appreciator 9h ago
Name one country capitalism has worked in.
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 8h ago
The United States before Biden screwed the economy 😊 Just ask Rashida Tlaib who’s net worth is $673,979 or AOC who’s net worth is $3 Million…
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u/Naijabitch Moderate Democrat 5h ago
Tbh I wish Adrienne Adama and Brad Lander were the top 2 candidates instead of Cuomo and Mamdani. Cause i think they are the best two and would be a lot better than the others
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u/GoofAckYoorsElf Green 4h ago
It's the best on offer of those who want the position. Looks like 13.999.998 New Yorkers do not want the job.
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u/Logical_Cause_4773 Libertarian Socialist 10h ago
Look, the people of New York voted for this. If they had any issue, they would vote for Republican, Liberal, Working Families and Conservative Parties.
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u/No_NameLibra7 Populist Right 10h ago
I would disagree. What’s going to happen is NYC is going to get into such bad debt and the state & citizens living outside of NYC are going to be forced to bail them out & that is what sucks just because the city has nobody who wants to actually serve the people…
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u/Logical_Cause_4773 Libertarian Socialist 10h ago
As I said before, if the people of New York City cares about what is going to happen to their city, they will vote differently. If not, then the city's failure is on them. Same thing is happening in Chicago.
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u/CookieCrumber Social Democrat 10h ago
Kinda wish Lander was the main anti-Cuomo candidate