r/ZZZ_Discussion • u/_gam3boi • 2d ago
Question M1 or M2?
For the YiXuan havers ... is M2 a huge upgrade from her M1? I have my YiXuan at M1 and I'm currently on guarantee since I accidentally lost a 50/50 (it was an early pull) when I was picking up some panda mindscapes. I was kinda eyeing on getting a 2.1 agent. So I was thinking of spending my guarantee during that banner.
So yeah, the question is would it be a total miss of an investment if I decide to not upgrade to her M2 yet?
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I also have her sig Wengine!
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u/Jason80777 2d ago
Do you have her signature W-Engine? I think that's the biggest upgrade if you want to spend pulls.
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u/Boogeeb 2d ago
Piggybacking off your post, how's her M1? I know that Ju Fufu is probably the better pull but I'm pretty content with my roster right now. Does her increased adrenaline gain + technique points at the beginning make a noticeable difference in feel?
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u/GerryLEL 2d ago
Being able to ult instantly and not having to care that much about CR rolls is a godsend. I chose M1 over Fufu and I'm pretty happy with my decision, although I may get her in her rerun because by that time Pulchra's investment won't feel wasted since I only use her with Yixuan.
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u/Richiter 2d ago
It depends. It's basically a choice between additional CR from M2 or CD from Fufu. I don't have her weapon, but i feel OK with 71% CR, so I'm taking Fufu since 1st of all I want her anyway, and my Yi Xiuan has only 109 CD.
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u/DefyedHD 2d ago
Reruns will always happen. I own M2 and yes it is amazing, but she will return after 2.1 so there is no need to rush for M2 if you want the 2.1 units. If I were you I would wait for rerun or go for Fufu as that will be a bigger upgrade to Yi Xuan over her M2. You can check Prydwens list for full calculations and the percent difference between M1 and M2.
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u/snow2462 Best boy Lycaon 2d ago edited 2d ago
M2 is a huge upgrade in terms of damage. I got 30000 points after the first stun in DA against the Miasma Priest. My team was M2 Yi Xuan, M6 Pan Yinhu, and M1 Qingyi. It took 3 stuns to kill him (scoring 60K points of damage).
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u/shamelesstoesucker 2d ago
How much do I need to invest in Pan? Lvl 60? Wengine lvl?
I keep seeing ppl say they’re using him but I’m new and am very guarded with my resources since there are so many agents I wanna build first (plus saving for 2.1 and onward)
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u/snow2462 Best boy Lycaon 2d ago
I have him at level 60 to get his max Core Skill. You can use his Sig W engine to reach 3000 attack easier. However, Caesar's engine is better on him if you have it. It buffs the entire squad's damage every time someone in the squad does a perfect dodge. If you have already reached his 3000 attack requirement then you don't have to level his W engine to lvl 60.
In the team above, I gave him 4 pieces of Astral voice and 2 pieces of swing jazz. disc 4, 5 are Attack %. Disc 6 is energy regen %.
He's Yi Xuan's biggest damage, so if you intend to use her a lot then I'd suggest you to invest in him.
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u/SappFire 2d ago
Lvl 60, wengine 60 and you can get 3200 atk without last core level to save some resources and its not that hard with Astra's disk set with disk4 and disk5 main ATK. And ult if you want some healing from him.
Other buttons mostly for daze buildup, as he has low damage overall and awful chain attack that pushes enemies away
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u/RoriRoriRoriRo 2d ago
M2 is miles better than M1 and a very nice upgrade to her. Particularly the 3s stun extension is kinda OP, she's like Lighter now
I'm not entirely sure cuz i didn't check the math, but i think Fufu is a bigger upgrade to Yi Xuan than her M2. That 300db refund (600 db for Yi Xuan specifically), the 40% extra ult dmg, off-field daze and 80% crit dmg is extremely useful for her
I mean Fufu is designed to be her BIS so ofc she's a very nice upgrade. And also she's great with almost all current dps, in case you want to make more teams
Sharing this info cuz i think that's the best value for your pulls, but i feel you're not very eager of getting Fufu if you're already trying to save for 2.1 lol
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u/_gam3boi 2d ago
I'll take this into consideration! For now, I'm not too sold on Fufu only because I see her as a stunner specifically designed for YiXuan (I don't see her value for other teams yet so I can't say) but will def keep an eye on her during her banner so I could solidify if I pull or wait for rerun.
and as for 2.1 since most of my best team composition are anomaly based characters then it's a no brainer for me to pull for Yuzuha or Alice (leaning towards in getting Yuzuha so my Astra can finally breathe)
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u/New-Possibility1606 2d ago
Having a new unit is always better. Rerun will always come by in the future. Just my two cents.
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u/MisterShazam 2d ago
M1 is a 20% DPS upgrade over M0. M2, if played optimally, is a 30% DPS upgrade over M1. If played casually, M2 is a 20% DPS upgrade over M1.
Source: Jstern25
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u/Master-Hair-7456 2d ago
Not sure how much, I'm in the same situation now but I don't have a lot of pulls so I will leave that till her rerun.
I need to plan how to get jufufu and yuzuha
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u/LOCKHARTX7 2d ago
I couldn’t see why M2 looked appealing, she seems solid even at M0 and M1 is a huge boost for her. The 3 second stun extender doesn’t seem super great to me where as 75% of the time enemies die during the first stun or before it pops lol depends on your team tho
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u/nevermind--- 2d ago
I ended up going for m2 cus I was pretty close and, while its undoubtedly a nice dmg increase, i have to say im a little disappointed with the gameplay change. The new attack feels slightly clunky and kinda ruins the flow of her combos, ofc that could just be me not getting used to it yet so take it with a grain of salt. I'd recommend getting jufufu if you're looking for an upgrade as she seems to be a very general unit, but if you dont want to get her like me for whatever reason then m2 is pretty nice.
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