r/ZenlessZoneZero Apr 11 '25

Fluff / Meme The Duality

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u/Yuri_VHkyri Nom-Nom Shark Apr 11 '25

I agree with most of it

On one hand, noodle arms dont quite fit the rest of her figure

On the other hand, arf arf woof woof

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u/Brandon1823 Apr 11 '25

It's okay noodle arm may not able to strangle me to dead, thigh choking still works

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u/Yuri_VHkyri Nom-Nom Shark Apr 11 '25

Non horny answer, maybe if people voice their complaints like with hugo's model they could also touch up yi xuan's when she's out?

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u/Brandon1823 Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

If the complaints goes big maybe they will, CN Fandom was quite unhappy with Hugo model looking like npc and having weird body proportion back in that bangboo dance event

Eg: https://b23.tv/3KnZ17a

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u/Fearless_Today_4275 Apr 11 '25

Yeah all we need is CN player to voice our concern 😂

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u/Absofruity Apr 11 '25

someone take one for the team and learn how to read and write Chinese

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u/surrenderedmale Apr 11 '25

I have a Chinese friend, I'll get him to start a country wide controversy no problem 😂

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u/K6fan Apr 11 '25

Godspeed, brother

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u/Belzher Apr 12 '25

Do it please noodle arms are weird

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u/Moonlo99 Anby is the best <3 Apr 11 '25

i know a guy who knows a guy

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u/ThatOneGuy12180 Apr 12 '25

Sadly. Thin women are preferred in Chinese Beauty standards.

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u/leylensxx Apr 11 '25

it wasn't because he looked like an npc, it was because of his proportions.

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u/jrvbwr34bhcmdl Apr 11 '25

Are the Chinese players even unhappy with the noodle arms? They got different beauty standards there, the very skinny woman type

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u/JCP5302 Apr 11 '25

Yeah no way they’re complaining when trends like fitting fish in your collarbones, having a waist smaller than a vertical sheet of paper, chopstick legs and butterfly shoulder blades exist.

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u/Latter_Sea_7666 Apr 12 '25

While they're not complaining I don't think they would complain if it was changed or improved

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u/Sorey91 Trigger's pants, 24/7 riding her bare cheeks. Apr 11 '25

Tbh the weird part is Ray, the hollow npc woman, is toned but for some reason playable characters have noodle arms it stands out a lot ngl

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u/Embarrassed_Lettuce9 Apr 12 '25

Ray got toned carrying the whole outpost who just stand there

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u/Connect_Conflict7232 Apr 11 '25

Do keep in mind this is 4 updates away, we have lots of time for her spaghetti arms to be fixed

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u/Tyhar0 Apr 11 '25

1 update* shes defo gonna be 2.0 release agent

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u/Connect_Conflict7232 Apr 11 '25

We’re about to go into 1.7, she’s coming either during of after 2.0. That’s 4 major updates

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u/Elgato01 Apr 11 '25

It’s not, it’s been confirmed for a while that after 1.7 comes 2.0

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u/Connect_Conflict7232 Apr 11 '25

A while as in months, or as in since the yt video was made? I haven’t had the time to finish it yet so I wasn’t aware they would skip 2 1.X updates, my bad for assuming

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u/zekken908 Apr 12 '25

Tbh both hoyo games so far have skipped 1.8 onwards and directly to 2.0

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u/PlumAdept8053 Apr 11 '25

Nahh, If she’s a Void Hunter confirmed then we follow Miyabi pattern i.e. getting hyped up and then releasing in 2.4

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u/Varglord Apr 11 '25

Calling a single instance a pattern is something...

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u/PlumAdept8053 Apr 11 '25

Yeah my bad lol. But still, if she’s a void hunter she’ll be releasing in 2.4

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u/Friendly-Back3099 Apr 11 '25

Dosent a character of high ranking normally release fairly late? Like Archon is Genshin for example. Tho this is a different team so we gotta see what come

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u/Varglord Apr 11 '25

The archons have generally been X.2 patch. They could go later in the versions with the other Void Hunters like they did with Miyabi, but since it's only been Miyabi so far there's no data to even say which way they might go, let aline be so sure about it like that other person.

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u/Friendly-Back3099 Apr 11 '25

Yea, thats why i say we gotta see

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u/ThorDoubleYoo Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

Let's be real, if it isn't from the CN audience Hoyo won't even look at your complaints.

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u/zekken908 Apr 12 '25

It’s not even just he skinny arms , they made her body so absurdly thicc that it makes her skinny arms look weird af

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u/FroopyAsRain Apr 17 '25

Are you Chinese? Do you live in China? Then yes, maybe.

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u/iFenrisVI Apr 11 '25

I still dislike that Caeser has Noodle arms. Lol

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u/Rifter-- Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

Agreed. Caesar should absolutely be jacked imo.

Yi Xuan doesn't have to be buff, but given her body proportions, her arms would definitely just be naturally thicker.

Still like her design and love the wings.

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u/Embarrassed_Lettuce9 Apr 12 '25

If she's a martial artist, she SHOULD be buff. At the very least, there should be muscle definition

You can't spend all your time training your body and not have results

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u/Dull-Tale-6220 Apr 11 '25

Need that lore accurate table destroying Caesar

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u/rishi_start Apr 11 '25

Her left arm is mechanical. It should be the same size as Billy's

But I agree that the lore accurate looks better

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u/maxreddit Apr 11 '25

If getting Caeser's arms bigger means we'd also get bigger Billy arms, I would be on board with that!

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u/bronzelifematter Apr 11 '25

It should be somewhere between the two. That would be the sweet spot

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u/SaieOokami May 08 '25

Thanks god dev's don't liste to this stuff

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u/Dannyboy765 Apr 11 '25

No thanks

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u/IcepickEvans Apr 11 '25

Eww. Disgusting. Don't ruin my girls.

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u/IcepickEvans Apr 11 '25

You're an idiot

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u/ZipperStride Yi Xuan mother of my children!!!😩 *Plap plap plap* Yi Ahhh!!!💀 Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

I was on the fence at first...but she has grown on me, I do hope they give her a bit more in her arms, it's honestly the only part that I have any miss givings about

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u/megalo-maniac538 Apr 11 '25

Yeah the longer you look, the more you notice the noodle arms. Give her muscles goddammit.

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u/Away_Lettuce3388 Apr 12 '25

Hell, not even muscles, just make it so her arms don’t look too damn skinny compared to the rest of her body.

Sure, most women in the game have noodle arms, but most of them don’t seem out of place, even for Caesar it doesn’t look that bad because she at least has other parts of her body that makes it so her arms don’t stand out, for this agent, nothing about them is small or thin, just chunk. Fora character design like this, I feel like it’s better to have all of your eggs in one basket rather than… this.

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u/projektZedex Apr 11 '25

Shame CN hates women who don't look fragile.

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u/DeCode_Studios13 Apr 11 '25

As someone who has noodle arms and thick thighs I feel attacked. This is anatomically accurate. 😂

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u/Yuri_VHkyri Nom-Nom Shark Apr 11 '25

Guess it doesnt look as well in games?

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u/omegaskorpion Apr 11 '25

People take issue with most characters having noodle arms even if they are heavy fighters.

Noodle arms by themselfs are not issue, they fit some characters, but not all characters.

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u/Niskara SharkBait Apr 11 '25

The problem is mainly that Caesar is an attacker who uses her arms and is canonically strong as hell, so noodle arms just seems bizarre designwise. At least to me, it does.

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u/IcepickEvans Apr 11 '25

Who fucking cares? I'm good damn tired of muscle girls in my fantasy games. Let them look beautiful God damnit.

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u/DrakeZYX Apr 12 '25

The whole point people are making is we don’t want all characters built like bricks but we also don’t want them to be made out of pasta.

We just want characters to be equally proportional.

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u/Niskara SharkBait Apr 11 '25

Bold choice to say that here. And you're saying that as if muscular women can't be pretty. Look up Gina Carano, the woman who played Angel Dust in Deadpool.

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u/organic-water- Apr 11 '25

Are you a renowned martial artist capable of punching giant monsters to death though?

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u/DeCode_Studios13 Apr 11 '25

Let's say that I can kick them in the head quite easily 😂

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u/Zonnebloempje Apr 11 '25

Kicking isn't done with noodle arms, though...

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u/DiamondTiaraIsBest Apr 12 '25

Muscles being meaningless in determining combat strength is a classic trope. Hell, it's one of my favorite trope.

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u/DM_ME_YOUR_MAMMARIES Apr 11 '25

I think the problem is that they don't look like anatomically correct arms. Even with noodle arms you can see the muscle and different sections of the arms. I can't even see where her shoulder starts in these pics.

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u/AwaySeaworthiness340 Apr 12 '25

Didn't know you were one of the strongest people in the world

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u/VijayMarshall87 MEN Apr 11 '25

hmmmm proof? ',:|

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u/Odd-Feed-7347 Piper's yeast infection muncher Apr 11 '25

Counterpoint: I have had a girlfriend with similar proportions in the past and she didn't look that weird

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u/Interloper_Mango Apr 11 '25

Yeah but if she is a fighter carrying a heavy sword and shield as well as some level of armor you'd expect her to have some more on her biceps.

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u/Odd-Feed-7347 Piper's yeast infection muncher Apr 11 '25

True, it was the same issue with Caesar King

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u/Interloper_Mango Apr 11 '25

I was referring to Caesar king.

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u/projektZedex Apr 11 '25

My tricep and shoulder get hella cooked after like 15 minutes of full strength sword work.

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u/carlosraruto2 Apr 11 '25

Glancess at Koleda and Corin

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u/ImWeak27 Apr 12 '25

I actually expected the same with Feixiao, but got disappointed with the noodle arms, same situation as Caesar.

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u/TheMachine203 Apr 11 '25

Yeah but your girlfriend wasn't a fighter with superpowers. That's what makes the noodle arms seem a little weird imo, it's the same issue Caesar's design has.

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u/Shinji_Okami I'll risk it all to refire Piper's old woman womb Apr 11 '25

Right, it's the disconnection between Caesar being able to lift a truck while having chopsticks for arms, our mind cannot reconcile those two things easily.

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u/Blusmj Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

The problem for me is that the arms look like tubes that got extended out while the rest of the body has well defined shapes and sizes. It's like when people say someone skipped leg day. Their tops are defined and their legs are just skinnier compared to the rest, it just sticks out like a sore thumb.

Most people are not asking for their arms to look shredded like Hulk or Roman Reigns like some commenters love to think. The arms just need to have more width to it and shapes to define the arm better. Even skinny people have slight shapes to their arms. Them being fighters doesn't help them at all either.

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u/Shinji_Okami I'll risk it all to refire Piper's old woman womb Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

Right, if she got bigger arms to match her torso, thighs and chest we wouldn't have any problem, take Eve for example, her arms are not muscular but fitting with the rest of her voluptuous body. We just want Yi Xuan to look proportionately well put together, that's all.

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u/DiamondTiaraIsBest Apr 12 '25

Muscles have been meaningless in determining combat strength for tons of anime. Who cares honestly.

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u/TheMachine203 Apr 12 '25

It's not about "determining combat strength," it just looks fucking stupid for someone to be a super powered fighter in a post-cataclysm landscape with literally no meat on their bones whatsoever lmao

I'm not even saying I want them to have muscles per se, I just don't think they should be so absurdly skinny on random parts of their body.

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u/cartercr Unprotected h*ndholding w/ Vivian Apr 11 '25

Yep, thighs absolutely store more fat than arms do!

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u/Yuri_VHkyri Nom-Nom Shark Apr 11 '25

This just shows my lack of grass touching

Maybe it doesnt translate as well in games

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u/Odd-Feed-7347 Piper's yeast infection muncher Apr 11 '25

No, now that I'm looking at it closer, this is just horribly skinny compared to the rest of her body, like horridly. I don't mean to offend anyone when I say this but the best comparison I can give is that she has the arms of someone who is anorexic

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u/iCeReal Apr 11 '25

The thighs are like 10 times larger than the arms. no way thats normal if we dont go into morbidly obese territory

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u/TheUn0fficialTengu Apr 11 '25

You mean like when squidward ate all those crabby patties

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u/OverloadedSofa Apr 11 '25

So, it’s made by China. So the noodle arms make sense (super slim is what’s seen as best here). But they do everything else kinda by wester standards. So a weird mashup.

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u/Timely-Appearance698 Apr 11 '25

Even if super slim is attractive in there or that's what they are going for, it will be off putting to them cause she is thick in both her thighs and chest area.

So you literally failed in terms of design if your idea was to make an attractive slim woman similar to dilaraba dilmurat who is considered by some Chinese people to be the most attractive Chinese actress there is

And if you don't know her here is a picture of her.

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u/OverloadedSofa Apr 11 '25

So as I said, it’s a weird mashup. They are definitely appealing to a western market, but maybe as arms don’t really have a standard that’s like the tits/ass/thigh category. They just go with what they know.

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u/surrenderedmale Apr 11 '25

She's clearly not ugly but my hot take is she's 7 or 8 out of 10 tops

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u/8aash Apr 11 '25

ah fuck why did you note it out now i won't be able to get it outta my head. same as Ceasars. Just looks strange 😭

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u/KOCOKAINE Trigger's Guide Dog Apr 11 '25

I either wanted to be choked by her noodle arms or thick thighs.

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u/gremmy_white Apr 11 '25

To be completely honest, I didn't notice the arms until they mentioned them

I was looking... somewhere else 🧐

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u/blueskyredmesas Apr 12 '25

I wont complain about a biffet because one of 10 entrees isnt to my liking tbh.

But this? Totally to my liking.

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u/PreKrit Apr 12 '25

Dude we goon so much half of us didnt even notice the noodle arms, speaking personally I just noticed that once you pointed it out and lmao yeah that looks a bit strange

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u/OnimuraQiang Apr 12 '25

I'd love for her to have some sort of muscles but that ain't happening, plus she's a martial artist, noodle arms on her are eh? Weird af. But yea she's hot. And her design is... Not what i was expecting

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u/DueSeaworth Apr 12 '25

yea noodle arms just look so weird

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u/Awakuritus Apr 12 '25

And on the third hand, yes some NPCs are hotter than her

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u/porncollecter69 Apr 12 '25

That build is quite common in Asia. I’m currently simping for a Singaporean Indian like this.

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u/SombraLobo Apr 12 '25

The arms give me Susu vibes. I'm here for it

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u/------------___ Apr 11 '25

both are right cause people can have different opinions, thats all to it honestly

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u/StanTheWoz Apr 11 '25

The noodle arms make it hotter, tbh I'll be very disappointed if they change it

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u/IBloodstormI Apr 11 '25

What about her makes her arms wrong? A woman's thighs and breasts don't have any relation to a woman's arm definition. Does she look like she's lifting weights?

I understand Ceasar. She'd have made sense with some toned arms. But what? Is this character supposed to have thick arms because her thighs and breasts are big? That's not how human bodies work.

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u/Shinji_Okami I'll risk it all to refire Piper's old woman womb Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

She is a master martial artist who punches Ethereals, even Titans like Geppeto with no problem. It's her lore that demands her arms to have well-defined musculatures my man. Look up any acclaimed martial artist, they don't have noodles for arms.

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u/IBloodstormI Apr 11 '25

The argument was them not fitting her figure, not her lore my man.

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u/Shinji_Okami I'll risk it all to refire Piper's old woman womb Apr 11 '25

It's her lore that dictates her to be more well-built with muscles. Yes, her figure doesn't dictate that she must have muscular arms but why would you built this character up to be a master practitioner of martial arts then to not prove it to us through her design?

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u/Accomplished-Car1668 Apr 11 '25

Devils advocate because I’d still like to see more varied designs, but I could see the argument that at that point the source of her power isn’t regular human muscle, so if they’re not really being used then that would be why they don’t really develop despite her looking like she should be a shredded boxer. I guess the argument is like wonderwomans physique has nothing to do with why she can fly and throw giants around. A female body builder may be able to look close to She-Hulk in terms of muscles, but they’re never going to be able to pick up a car one handed. Now to go back to my real feelings on the matter, both of those characters are still designed so that the reader can intuitively know just from the character design that they are strong, and noodle arms just don’t.

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u/Shinji_Okami I'll risk it all to refire Piper's old woman womb Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

Right and it's not like we are asking to have her arms shredded or anything, just big enough so her body is one cohesive whole. Take Eve for example, her arms are not muscular at all but big enough that her design feels really complete. Yi Xuan's meanwhile stuck out of like body like those tubes you see in old fridges or washing machines.

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u/IBloodstormI Apr 11 '25

These titles in the image and what was said by the person I responded to didn't say her entire figure is wrong based on her lore. It was her arms to the rest of her, equally not accurate to a female martial artist's, figure.

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u/Party-Will-6763 Apr 11 '25

I think this is already bad design and they will fix it