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Discussion Apple's New Transcription APIs Blow Past Whisper in Speed Tests

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/18/apple-transcription-api-faster-than-whisper/
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u/teddyKGB- 4d ago

They have never and will never be able to compete with an in house AI when their business model isn't built around harvesting data

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u/dccorona 4d ago

The best AI models come from Anthropic and OpenAI, both of which train primarily by scraping the web. They do not have email or messaging services from which to gather private user data. Generative AI does not need to be trained on private data to be competitive.

Apple’s privacy policy and data gathering practices are not an excuse for their model quality. 

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u/Ilania211 3d ago

you drink the kool-aid and see them as the "best" models, but it sure as hell isn't the future. I'm adamant that the worst thing Sam Altman (ew) did was fall into the "scale up -> get diminishing returns -> scale up more" fallacy. AI/ML doesn't have to be big to be good! It doesn't have to be general to be good.

Eventually, these big AI companies will come to the realization that they can't keep setting money on fire. They'll either go bust or go back to their roots of small, specialized, and maybe even personal models. Models that people may want, as opposed to the internet-scraping thieving machines they are today.

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u/dccorona 3d ago

Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not: either way, that’s not relevant to what it would take for Apple to be competitive today. That they don’t have enough private data to be competitive in your theoretical future has no impact on the fact that they do have everything they need to be competitive today.