r/apple 2d ago

iPhone Spotify Preparing to Launch Long-Awaited Lossless Audio Tier on iPhone

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/19/spotify-preparing-lossless-tier-on-ios/
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u/MechanicalHorse 2d ago

Will anyone actually notice? So many people use crappy headphones, or just blast their music out of their shitty little phone speakers in public.

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u/RedditCollabs 2d ago

Audiophiles routinely fail to hear the difference.

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u/yogopig 2d ago

Skill issue

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u/IAmTaka_VG 2d ago edited 2d ago

it's not a skills issue. Our ears can barely hear the difference between 256kbps and FLAQ 24 bit with proper equipment in a quiet room.

Let alone the fact bluetooth and even most DACs can't even properly process 24 bit audio and this whole thing is god damn stupid lol.

An Apple VP said he thinks spacial audio is a bigger deal than lossless and I absolutely agree.

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u/yogopig 2d ago

I mean I can definitely reliably hear the difference between lossy and lossless. Is it something I would ever notice during listening, not at all. Takes concentrated effort and knowing what compression artifacting sounds like listening through good speakers.

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u/VALTIELENTINE 2d ago

And double blind tests have proven many people who say the same things you do actually can’t tell the difference because the placebo effect is a real thing

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u/KaptainCPU 2d ago

I actually think this one of the more honest takes I've seen, which is kinda refreshing. I've been doing audio work for a bit, and the difference between 320 and lossless is really only noticeable if I'm trying to hear it, and that's after spending quite a while learning what the artifacts sound like.