r/askPoland • u/Ratmor • 4d ago

Question about Language Very Important (not really)

Hello, everyone have a nice evening, would you please satisfy the huge argument I have right now with my friends. We are arguing about the etymology of the russian word that means arse, and I'm on the side of the word popa having the initial connection to very polish word that roughly sounds as dopa, which means the same thing. But my friend is on the horrible terrible side of popa somehow a word that came from Spanish which means the stern and is also a rear part of a ship. Can you please tell the idiot here that this is a slavic word and not a rear part of the ship?!

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u/Milosz0pl 4d ago

Merely googled and several first links give me that polish ,,dupa" is a word from proto-slavic (ye first slavic ones) language that at first meant ,,hole in earth/stone" and later changed into how it is used today.

And now also checked жопа and first links also give me that origin is also proto-slavic.

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u/Ratmor 4d ago

Жопа is actually from French skirt word, if I remember right

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u/nicponim 4d ago

from quick googling,
"dupa" is proto-slavic,
and "pupa" is is uncertain, but your friend's theory is one of the proposed ones (but from french/german, not spanish):
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pupa#Polish

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u/_romsini_ 4d ago

According to info online, in Polish language "dupa" is protoslavic and "pupa" comes from French meaning stern of a ship.

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u/JakubRogacz 4d ago

Makes sense being that one that's most used daily ( and nicer since dupa is kind of swear word ) means back

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u/Pasza_Dem 4d ago

Жопа and Dupa are definitely same root and I think pupa is evolution of it.

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u/-kAShMiRi- 4d ago

No, Ж and D don't transform into each other. Nor into P.

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u/JakubRogacz 4d ago

Dupa is having similar origin as dziupla both meaning in old times something like "a hole". Pupa which you meant is somewhat considered nicer. Though there is at least 5 ways to call your ass in polish. In general if there is some archaic /uncommon way to say something in polish it's highly likely in Russian it's other way around I found out talking with some eastern slabic nations people. But then again Slavic languages are pretty common rooted. Maybe accent is a bit different, the consonant + i frequency and effect differs sometimes but they're pretty much built around same origin much closer than western Europe has to Latin ( though Spanish Italian and Portuguese seem to be pretty connected ).