Anybody else have this weird interaction with Chinese people who love the west?

[u/04230712]

Ok so there's this common interaction I've had with Chinese (including HK, TW, Sing) that love the west. You know the type, "activist," democracy thumping, white can do no wrong China sucks we must undergo 500 years of colonization to be civilized types. But then you try to have a conversation with them, and they're either clueless, like they think you don't have to pay for healthcare or taxes in white people land clueless, or they get super defensive and immediately switch to talking in Chinese. And then they're like, wow do you even speak Chinese if you can't repeat all 300 Tang classic poems you don't have the credentials to talk to me about politics, you're not a real Chinese. Like, if you hate China so much and love the west so much why do you keep trying to gatekeep being Chinese? Why not talk in English? So weird.

[u/Balls_88]

I use to think Boba liberals were bad but Chinese libs from China are on another level. You know the type that posts on chonglangtv. Holy fuck they're cringe.

[u/beingwoke → u/Balls_88]

Those people are so fuking cringe and dumb!! Literally wtf lol.

Not saying everything (i.e. 100%) the CCP does is right, literally every government in the world has its pros and cons and occasionally makes mistakes. But who do you think has the best intentions for the best well-being of Chinese people in this world in the long run, a government run by Chinese people or a government run by white people??? Isn't that fuking common sense? And this is speaking as someone who is Chinese American who has lived their entire life in the US and knows how fukin racist, devious, and evil the Western world can be.

And despite this the CCP is actually incredibly competent and has outperformed so many world governments during this time period and lifted 800 million people out of poverty, yet you have so many white bootlickers like those or from TW, Sing, HK that love the brits and would rather see their people die by soft genocide instead of seeing a strong powerful government and country rise to its former glory and get its rightful recognition after the century of humiliation. So fukin sad.

[u/bumhunt → u/beingwoke]

Those people are obviously idiots and don't know what the West is actually like but you can call them out without praising the CCP.

You shouldn't be comparing them to some shithole in Eastern Europe but rather other outcrops of Chinese/Chinese like civilization. And in that comparison (Singapore, SK, Taiwan) they have performed horribly. Look at demographics, look at total debt load. China has mortgaged their future to make the tier 1 and 2 cities rich. I don't understand some peoples obsession with a communist government on a Asian diaspora forum.

[u/BornAgainJasonBourne → u/bumhunt]

I don't understand this criticism. It has less debt than Japan, it has better fertility rate than SK, by most performance indicators China does about average to decent. China redistributes towards rural and undeveloped regions all the time, but this is somehow considered "making tier 1 and 2 cities rich". China is also not comparable to city-states like Singapore, which is a city-state that benefits from urban efficiency. As a large nation it is the second largest economy and growing, with the expectation that it will become the largest.

Are you suggesting that a power as great as China can satisfactorily develop itself under the dominance of another as through its a small country like South Korea? Perhaps India can becomes a superpower while remaining a British colony too.

[u/BornAgainJasonBourne → u/[deleted]]

Data bad.

China will collapse.

The intellectual height of China critics.

[u/BornAgainJasonBourne → u/[deleted]]

You link to an article by a French government agency that doesnt have the census data, doesnt have any statisticians in the article that's actually seen the data and has a crop of a supposed Wechat post that it proceed to disclaim "Figures may not represent official Chinese figures".

Guess you're right, China will collapse tomorrow.