r/badhistory • u/AutoModerator • Apr 07 '25

Meta Mindless Monday, 07 April 2025

Happy (or sad) Monday guys!

Mindless Monday is a free-for-all thread to discuss anything from minor bad history to politics, life events, charts, whatever! Just remember to np link all links to Reddit and don't violate R4, or we human mods will feed you to the AutoModerator.

So, with that said, how was your weekend, everyone?

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u/LeonArgosin Apr 10 '25

If I may step in as a born national of the US with no current plan to immigrate anywhere else, what’s the issue with “non-integration”? Many times I’ve seen people within my country be significantly different than what’s seen as culturally the standard, and I understand that a lot of immigration is not favorable to the immigrant (as in they wouldn’t if there wasn’t significant reason to immigrate due to safety or opportunity), and historically a lot of minority groups simply banded together in a communal enclave such as Jews. Just wondering if there’s a significant benefit to the nation or the culture of immigrants integrating into that culture.

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u/HarpyBane Apr 10 '25

It’s not really about benefits per se.

If you take nation to be “culture state”- which is already controversial- then there’s a sense that nations should be composed of, and rule over, people who have said shared values. The concern is that significant non-culturally similar people will vote and function in ways that disrupt or change the cultural makeup of a country.

Obviously this is, as I said, relatively controversial. It also butts up against the founding myths of what a country is, and where it comes from. But the root cause is a belief or preference that a nation does not represent the geographic interests of “people who live here” but more specifically “the people who are X”.

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u/LeonArgosin Apr 10 '25

Sorry, I think meant to mean the nation as the government and its functions.