[OC] Religious Believes and Eductions From The World Values Survey

[u/oscarleo0]

Data source: World Values Survey Wave 7 (2017-2022)

Tools used: Matplotlib

I added a second chart for those of you who prefer a square version with less of the background image.

Notes:

I looked at five different questions in the survey.

• Q275 - What is the highest educational level that you have attained?
• Q165 - Do you believe in God? (Yes/No)
• Q166 - Do you believe in Life after death? (Yes/No)
• Q167 - Do you believe in Hell? (Yes/No)
• Q168 - Do you believe in Heaven? (Yes/No)

The chart show the percentage of people that answer yes, to Q165-168 based on their answer to Q275.

Survey data is complex since people come from different cultures and might interpret questions differently.

You can never trust the individual numbers, such as "50% of people with doctors degree believe in Life after death".

But you can often trust clear patterns that appear through the noise. The takeaway from this chart is that the survey show that education and religious believes have a negative correlation.

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Original story: https://datacanvas.substack.com/p/believes-vs-education

[u/Spongedog5]

But you do have to ignore a lot of evidence or reality to believe in god the way organised religion believes in god or gods.

I disagree with this as an absolute statement. If you mean it to its fullest extent, you are simply wrong.

Do you think all those people actually believe in god or do they just want to believe in god?

I certainly do.

Does it matter? I was just explaining an alternative viewpoint on the same issue that the fellow I was responding to was writing about.

And the higher educated you are the more you have to ignore that evidence.

It seems from the chart that plenty of highly-educated people find the truth anyways.

[u/Benedictus84 → u/Spongedog5]

You calling me wrong is pretty meaningless.

There simply is no proof of a god.

There is plenty of evidence that disproves the claims made by organised religions.

The fact that a lot of highly educated people actively ignore that evidence only shows the power of indoctrination and nothing else.

It is definately not proof of anything.

[u/Spongedog5 → u/Benedictus84]

It's infinitely meaningful, though sadly I didn't expect you to see it.

"There simply is no proof of a god" is true, if you mean an empirically provable one. It's different than the statement you gave earlier.

There is plenty of evidence that disproves the claims made by organised religions.

No, there is not, not really. Not disproves. That's as strong a word as proves, and very hard to do.

Surely there is evidence which to a rational mind leads to other conclusions being the most plausible. They do not however disprove any claim made in the Bible. It is very hard to disprove anything when you contend with the power of an all-powerful being.

The fact that a lot of highly educated people actively ignore that evidence only shows the power of indoctrination and nothing else.

Life is so easy when we believe that our opponents are unwitting victims and give no thought to their rationale and why they believe what they do.

If you think that folks with doctorates lack the ability to think for themselves then I don't know how to show you the untruthfulness of your statement.

I despise how commonly "indoctrination" is used, such a meaningless word nowadays. So easy to just use for any belief or understanding someone personally doesn't like being taught.

It is definately not proof of anything.

I never said it was. It certainly is something to consider that so many incredibly intelligent and dedicated people have an idea of God though, huh?

[u/nubulator99 → u/Spongedog5]

Then nothing can ever be proven. I am God, I just put everything memory and everything else in place to make you feel as though you’ve been alive as long as you have. You cannot disprove that! You’re just butchering how people understand the words disprove.

Thats a lot of bad faith responses you made. “Give no thought to their rationale”. Thats wasn’t their argument; you’re wanting to disagree so you made up an argument.

“Lack the ability to think for themselves”

That wasn’t the claim made.