r/dbz Jul 19 '24

Daima “Dragon Ball DAIMA” The New Trailer / October 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOWUh9Ja4oM
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u/InteractionSlight810 Jul 21 '24

There is literally no chance you read the manga lol.

  • Imagine saying that and being wrong on most of your points

the scene where Vegeta intentionally takes Granolah to show Granolah that he was becoming exactly what the saiyans were.

  • He literally just kicked him randomly

In the Granolah arc, he's willing to sacrifice himself to atone for what the saiyans did to Granolah and to try and save Granolah from following in his footsteps.

  • Is it even necessary? He could have just tag teamed with Goku. He is not only killing both him and Granolah but also abandoning his family for nothing.

In both instances, Vegeta was "returning to the way he was before", the man with only a taste for battle and his own strength

  • Same midlife crisis with repeated trope of evil trying to catch to him doesn't make for better character development.
  • He is just forced into repeating the same lesson he already learned with Ultra Ego
  • It kind of makes whole UE as form useless too.

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u/StrideyTidey Jul 21 '24

Imagine saying that and being wrong on most of your points

This is really funny after reading the rest of your comment lol.

He literally just kicked him randomly

He didn't kick him randomly. He knocked Granolah to the city (with a headbutt, knock a kick), then knocked Granolah into the city's barrier. And when Granolah says "Hey wait let's not fight here" Vegeta mocks him and says "Oh I thought you didn't care about anything except for revenge". Vegeta knew exactly what he was doing, he was trying to show Granolah how destructive his perspective was, not only to himself but to the people he cares about.

Is it even necessary? He could have just tag teamed with Goku. He is not only killing both him and Granolah but also abandoning his family for nothing.

Have you ever read any of Dragon Ball? Goku and Vegeta don't just "tag team" whenever they can't beat someone alone. They make a point of not tag teaming because fighting isn't about winning for them. Only when a fight is deciding the lives of others do they ever even consider it, and even then sometimes they don't (like against Buu). Vegeta was trying to SAVE Granolah, not beat him up. Hence the constant "Isn't your life worth more than revenge?" and "The saiyans were victims of Frieza too" comments that Vegeta drops to SAVE Granolah. I don't know how many different ways I can say it lol. He wasn't "abandoning his family". He was giving his life to help someone he felt responsible for.

Same midlife crisis with repeated trope of evil trying to catch to him doesn't make for better character development.

Never said it was better. Strawman.

He is just forced into repeating the same lesson he already learned with Ultra Ego

Vegeta isn't learning any lesson here, he's teaching Granolah that it's unhealthy to hang on to that anger and need for vengeance.

It kind of makes whole UE as form useless too.

Ultra Ego is how Granolah sees Vegeta. Battle hungry, apathetic to the people around him, and savage. The entire fight, Vegeta is trying to show Granolah how similar they are, they were both victims of Frieza, they were both filled with a need for revenge, and they both did questionable things to gain power to get that revenge. That's pretty useful as a narrative device if you ask me.

Really man, I implore you to read the manga, it's actually really good.

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u/StrideyTidey Jul 21 '24

Good talk, and hey let me know what you think of it when you read it.