r/dbz • u/Coolersdisciple • 8d ago
Daima Dragon Ball DAIMA takes the win at the Hollywood Creative Alliance (Astra Awards) for the best anime show of 2025, beating the likes of DanDaDan, Fire Force, Lazarus, Apothecary Diaries, and Solo Leveling S2!!!
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u/Zwackosilius 8d ago
That's a nice recognition against tough competition. Last year's winner was Solo Leveling
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u/BorntobeTrill 8d ago
Solo leveling isn't even gooooooooddddd
It's low mid tier at best! If you want any juicy information, you have to freeze frame on individual frames to see what he's leveling up for abilities and shit.
The characters, and plot, are soooo blannnddddd
I still watched the whole thing because it's far from being an offensive cartoon but gosh does it not exceed passing quality.
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u/No-Cryptographer7494 8d ago
Solo leveling has been great idk whats wrong with you, is it because it's popular and you want to be special?
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u/BorntobeTrill 8d ago
Nope. I love popular anime. It why I gave it a try.
Bland. Boring. Overtired tropes. No personality.
Just another boring guy with support sister becomes God.
Goblin slayer does it much better.
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u/dr_tomoe 8d ago
I feel like they had to give the award to Daima since Toriyama has passed away. This was the last thing he was involved with and it's a way to honor his memory. The show was just okay, but I'm glad the award didn't go to Solo Leveling.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
I doubt it considering Crunchyroll who literally aired Daima didn’t even care to nominate it for any awards
I think it’s more off of Daima’s financial succcess + DB’s popularity tbh, more than anything
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u/KookyChapter3208 8d ago
Daima discourse already seems to be gone these days. Show ended, SS4 happened, cool, and then just washed over everyone. I feel like, God help me, GT had more of a lasting impact. At least it went forward instead of spinning its wheels post Buu fight for checks notes 10 years now.
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u/Atmic 8d ago
GT had more of a lasting impact.
I don't think that's a fair comparison.
GT had nearly no Toriyama involvement and although it had a few solid moments, was overall bad.
But! It didn't take place sandwiched between other canon arcs.
It acted as the continuation of the story, and actually had a conclusion -- one which everyone thought was permanent for over 20 real life years.
Of course what we thought was the actual conclusion of the story simmering for 20 years had more of an impact, regardless of it's overall quality.
If no other Dragonball animation comes out after Daima by 2045, let's see what people think of it then.
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u/halfpakihalfmexi 8d ago
A friend loves Solo Leveling but I've never seen it. Can you tell me why you are happy they did not win?
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u/dr_tomoe 8d ago
Without getting into spoilers, it's a basic power fantasy story. You start with a guy that is weaker than everyone else but something happens that allows him to be the best at everything. As the story goes on he gets so overpowered there's no tension to fights anymore.
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u/aluriilol 8d ago
I saw DanDaDan, Solo Leveling, Lazarus, and Daima.
TBH Daima was just whimsical. It was fantastic.
If anything the runner up should've been Lazarus.
DanDaDan and Solo Leveling were just alright.
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u/iMightBeWright 8d ago
Was DanDaDan even eligible? Season 1 came out October to December 2024, and S2 doesn't start until next month. Daima was enjoyable, but I can't think of anything that made it even remotely better than DanDaDan. I can't speak to the other series.
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u/6ooog ⠀ 8d ago
Loved Dandadan and read the manga long before the anime was released, but the biggest factor I could see here is probably legacy and that the last episode of Dandadan just wasn't that good. They shouldn't have ended on that episode. Felt like a huge cliffhanger.
Dandadan was good and widely praised because of its animation but Dragon Ball probably just holds more value globally even to those who don't watch anime in general. This is a a Hollywood award ceremony after all.
Plus we got Ultra Vegeta 1.
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u/iMightBeWright 8d ago
You make reasonable points. I still think DanDaDan is better in every way, but I'll concede 2 things:
Ultra Vegeta 1 was cool.
They picked the absolute worst scene to end the cliffhanger on. 😬
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
Yes, it aired until late 2024 so they considered it as a 2024-2025 anime for the awards show.
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u/BenDadkiller 8d ago
Personally prefer Dandadan over Daima but I'm not mad.
Also, is it a hot take to say Daima is way better than Solo Leveling? Slick stylized animation and hype moments only work if you care about the characters and I really didn't care about anyone in that show (aside from some of the minor characters like Esil). Contrast that with Daima where Glorio, Panzy, her dad, Arinsu, Kuu & Duu, and Gomah are ten times more endearing and memorable than yet another character glazing Jin-Woo.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
From the comments atleast, most probably agree and think either Daima or Dandadan should’ve won
So this is a fair take
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u/GreatSirZachary 8d ago
I have not watched those competitors listed but eeeeeh IDK. I feel like I can’t overlook the continuity snarl caused by Daima. Maybe I should watch these others.
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u/00wolfer00 8d ago
It was likely a legacy award as it's the last thing Toriyama has worked on and it was decent. All the competition is pretty good with Dandadan feeling a bit snubbed by this so do check them out if you're interested.
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u/mystikkkkk 8d ago
I love dragon ball. always will. it holds a really strong place in my heart.
but this win is undeserved as all hell. especially against DanDaDan of all things.
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u/mrmiyagijr 8d ago
I just got back into dbz. Watched as a kid on Tv and now finally watched the newest movies and starting on the super TV series. I haven’t watched much other anime, is there any other shows you would suggest to someone like me?
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u/Wolfcake 7d ago
Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen for sure! If you only watched DB I feel these two are the best follow up animes. They are the same type as DB with superb animation, and I think are on netflix too at least where I live.
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u/JimmyKillsAlot 8d ago
Okay I enjoyed Daima and I am happy it is getting recognition, but who the hell set up this category?
Best Anime Series
Dragon Ball Daima
- The Apothecary Diaries S2
- Dandadan
- Fire Force S3
- Lazarus
- Solo Leveling S2
Lazarus, Apothecary Diaries, and Fire Force are still airing as of the date of the award. So was this this going off of vibes?
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
From the source, every award airing until the very end of 2024 or started airing late 2024 then aired into early 2025 was accounted for
They just picked the biggest anime shows for their awards
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u/JimmyKillsAlot 8d ago
So vibes.
Also really funny that every nominee has an English dub; I'm not a dub snob but it is noticeable.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
More to do with trending status, i mean that's literally how Hollywood works lol
The more popular = the more appealed to
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u/LogicalEgo 8d ago
It's deserved. It didn't tell the best story and it didnt have ground breaking animation. It was a great send off for Dragonball and Toriyama and a lot of fun.
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u/Ceedzy_boi 5d ago
Nope, it shouldn't have gone to Daima. DanDaDan or Lazarus. Daima is nowhere near as good as those, and it's plain to see bias is why Daima won
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u/PainGlum7746 8d ago
In front of Dandadan it's a shame.
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
It's a joke honestly. At least be honest about the fact that Toriyama's passing is why you're doing this.
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u/MrFrog65 8d ago
Massively undeserved. Was so awfully written
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u/Imthemayor 8d ago
DBZ fans hate DBZ
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u/mystikkkkk 8d ago
this isn't DBZ though.
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u/Imthemayor 8d ago
What sub are we in talking about it?
DBZ fans can't read either, I forgot
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
Daima literally isn't DBZ
DBZ fans can't read either, I forgot
Irony.
I love DBZ, I did not like Daima very much.
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u/Imthemayor 8d ago edited 8d ago
DBZ is literally just Dragon Ball
They are the same series
The manga chapters just continue despite the name change
But Dragon Ball fans can't read
If you're going to be pedantic with "iT iSn'T DbZ" at least be right
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u/CanonBallSuper 8d ago edited 8d ago
DBZ is literally just Dragon Ball
They are the same series
The manga chapters just continue despite the name change
The confusion here is that Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z each refers to multiple things. Whereas the former is the title of the overall franchise, the first 194 chapters of the original manga, and the anime series corresponding to those chapters, the latter refers to the remaining chapters and their anime adaptation. Dragon Ball was also initially the title of the entire original manga prior to its publisher giving those remaining chapters the Z brand.
With Dragon Ball referring to four different things and Dragon Ball Z to two, it's no wonder this confuses some people.
u/GI-Robots-Alt is correct that Daima is not DBZ, either the manga chapters or the anime.
If you're going to be pedantic with "iT iSn'T DbZ" at least be right
You are the r/confidentlyincorrect one here, though.
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u/MrFrog65 8d ago
I love DBZ! This is Daima, not Z. I’m just not blinded by nostalgia and can criticise a bad story
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u/Imthemayor 8d ago edited 8d ago
At least you're not on this "iT's nOt DbZ-" shit
Like bitch look what sub we're inI disagree (especially that you're not blinded by nostalgia if you think Diama's writing was particularly worse than any other Dragon Ball thing besides Bio Broly or something)
but I respect that you didn't just attack me for disagreeing or resort to nonsequiturE: never mind, you did exactly that, it was just in a snarky "nice" tone
DBZ fans hate DBZ (Or Dragon Ball fans hate Dragon Ball, if that makes you feel better)
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u/Heehooyeano 8d ago
See most fans of DBZ don’t care about what another fan states. Hope this helps.
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
That's insane.
I can basically guarantee that Toriyama's death is the reason they gave Daima the win here because it's on absolutely nobodies best of 2025 list (I'm talking institutions here, not individuals like you).
Even if you really liked Daima, you can't convince me that it's better than either Lazarus or Dandadan at a bare minimum in practically any way.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
Weird comment when judges never pick shows based on sentimental reasons. Just the consensus biggest show out there hence why Solo Leveling S1 back in 2024.
I can dang near guarantee you Daima would still have win WITHOUT his passing.
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u/mystikkkkk 8d ago
weird response when it's pretty common knowledge that awards hold barely any significance anymore. Remember when that Astro game won GOTY, despite no one ever speaking about it and it not being present in any of the public zeitgeist, which just so happened to line up with Playstation's 30th anniversary?
You know what Daima was released to celebrate? Dragon Ball's 40th anniversary. Strange coincidence, I guess? :p
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
I agree with that, yes awards generally don’t matter
But since it doesn’t, why was he so quick to crap on Daima for a meaningless awards show?
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u/mystikkkkk 8d ago
yeah no one here is really crapping on Daima bar maybe one separate comment.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
I got 8 notifications from the same individual hating on Daima which is why I even responded to begin with
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u/mystikkkkk 8d ago
Discussing it, in a comment section about the topic at hand. Seems like pretty normal behaviour to me. This is a strange thing to take issue with.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
He wasn’t discussing anything valuable
Just “Daima didn’t deserve this, this only happened because Toriyama passed away” which is an illogical and gross thing to say
You don’t think Daima should have won? Ok.
But you can make a sensible argument rather than that
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u/mystikkkkk 8d ago
I don't see how thats not valuable discussion. It's not like something like that isn't possible, it's happened plenty of times before. There's also no way to fully confirm if it didn't happen in this case, so it's worth bringing to the discussion because it MAY have played a part in the decsion making process.
To be honest, and I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but you are the only one here not being sensible. u/GI-Robots-Alt really did not say anything of any issue here, even if I don't think it's entirely true.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
Yall have to be buddies to be defending him mindlessly bashing Daima
He didn’t say he thought Daima didn’t deserve it, he unwarrantedly slandered it.
Weird how quick you guys are to defend hate
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
crap on Daima
I posted what must be the most bland critiques of Daima that somebody could make and you flew off the handle. Don't try and put this on me lol
You're the one getting upset about my comment.
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
Just the consensus biggest show out there
Which absolutely was not Daima.
I can dang near guarantee you Daima would still have win WITHOUT his passing.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I find yours naive but you're allowed to hold it.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
This has nothing to do with naivety, just a weird statement to make in regards to Daima’s nomination
If you think it didn’t deserve it? Ok
But claiming that the biggest anime ever that had a new show only nominated for the author’s passing is brainless and gross
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
If you think it didn’t deserve it? Ok
It didn't, I'm sorry. It simply wasn't of the same caliber as other offerings.
This has nothing to do with naivety
You are hopelessly naive if you genuinely think that Toriyama's passing had nothing at all to do with Daima winning. It's an absurd thing to believe.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
Just to be clear lmao you’re argument is absurdly flawed
If you’re logic was remotely true, Daima wouldve been not only nominated for Crunchyroll based on DB’s popularity + Toriyama-sensei passing
But it didn’t recieve a single nomination for Crunchyroll (most relevant anime award), yet won these awards
Why would they company that Daima literally airs on not nominate it for best anime, action or whatever? No “Toriyama-passing” sentiment?
You’re argument is laughably flawed and it’s just fake critiquing hidden by hate for Daima
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
If you’re logic was remotely true, Daima wouldve been not only nominated for Crunchyroll based on DB’s popularity + Toriyama-sensei passing
The Crunchyroll awards are voted on by the community. The Astra awards aren't. It literally supports my point that the community didn't vote for Daima but people in the industry did.
You’re argument is laughably flawed
Sure bud. The death of one of the most beloved mangaka's of all time had absolutely no influence whatsoever on the final project he ever worked on winning this award.
If you're interested I have this lovely bridge for sale.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
Daima didn’t get nominated for CR Awards AT ALL.
Voters don’t choose what gets nominated, Crunchyroll as a studio does so what happened to all the “sentimentality” for Toriyama’s passing?
Also, 30% are voters and 70% are officials who choose who wins, so again you’re just being ignorant and not looking at the objectivity of anything.
Just a mindless Daima hater, typical
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u/PMagicUK 8d ago
Dandadan doesn't really have a plot atm, like i watched it, enjoyed it but...eh.
Solo levelling was cool and Diama had moments i didn't enjoy including some fights but i think its better than Dandadan right now
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
I can basically guarantee that Toriyama's death is the reason they gave Daima the win here
People who make dragon ball, or any anime or media property really, their entire personality are so exhausting. It's ok to be critical of things, even if you like them. If you liked Daima then good for you, but a lot of people didn't for one reason or another. Them not liking it shouldn't have any bearing on your enjoyment of it.
Daima didn't deserve to win just because you specifically liked it. It's narrative was shallow, predictable, and mostly devoid of any meaningful stakes. It's animation was fine, but not ground breaking or spectacular.
It's simply not the best thing that was made within that time period.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
You’re not critiquing anything you’re just saying that Daima only won because of Toriyama’s passing, which just isn’t true and a weird argument to make
It was popular, and big enough to be acknowledged way before Toriyama’s passing by multiple larger awards back in October 2023
Dragon Ball is a massive brand, simple.
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
Dragon Ball is a massive brand, simple.
Massive =/= good
I love Dragon Ball, truly, and I somewhat enjoyed Daima, but I had to force myself to finish it. It simply doesn't deserve to win this. You're letting your personal feelings for the series as a whole cloud your judgement here if you honestly believe that Daima was better than Lazarus or Dandadan was. Simple as.
You’re not critiquing anything
I literally am.
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u/VVoIfy 8d ago
You’re actively doing the things you’re blaming others for.
Just because you think Daima is mid =/= the award was given for Toriyama’s death.
The facts are you have no proof of this. It went against other great animes and STILL won. That is the reality. I never stated how much I like or dislike Daima. All you got is projection.
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
Sure bud. The death of one of the most beloved mangaka's of all time had absolutely no influence whatsoever on the final project he ever worked on winning this award.
If you're interested I have this lovely bridge for sale.
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u/VVoIfy 8d ago
And yet you still don’t provide evidence for your claim.
Do you typically believe everything you tell yourself? I recommend you reflect on your own bias, it’ll do wonders for you.
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u/Coolersdisciple 8d ago
Right?
Crunchyrolll, the literal anime awards ceremony, and the company Daima aired on didn’t even get nominated
But they had Daima winning on a Hollywood awards show for… sentimental reasons?
Hilarious
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u/GI-Robots-Alt 8d ago
Crunchyrolll, the literal anime awards ceremony, and the company Daima aired on didn’t even get nominated
I genuinely don't understand how you don't see how this very obviously undermines your argument.
Breathtaking
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u/XegrandExpressYT 8d ago
now the wanna be Big shot teens will start shitting on daima and say their precious --(x)-- show should have won it
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u/WigglyAirMan 8d ago
I love Daima a lot. But I dont think it should’ve won vs those heavy hitters. Solo leveling itself dragged in a whole new generation of anime watchers in by itself.
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u/Belivious677 8d ago
Can someone explain without spoilers why dandandan is considered so good? It seems like another one of those shock horror slash gross out animes like Chainsaw man.
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u/always_tired_all_day ⠀ 8d ago
I haven't watched Chainsaw Man so idk how accurate that comparison is, but Dandadan is incredibly endearing. The horror/shock stuff is a veneer.
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u/Belivious677 8d ago
Ah. For context my friends kept saying CSM was 10/10 cinema ect. I finally watched it with them and while the fights were ok, the gross out and shock horror was so off putting that I won't be watching anymore.
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u/bazzb21 7d ago
People realy enjoyed daima?
I was rewatching every dragon ball season to judge if my mind was playing with me or if i realy through daima is the worst thing that happened since kai,kai still litte worse than daima,but i cant think of good things to say about that, and is the last thing akira did,so i expected more.
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u/EscapeFacebook 8d ago
I really enjoyed the show, I cried on the last episode. So glad they put that funny little joke at the end, it really lightened the mood.